Comments on: Argentina, The Philippines and the Manny Villar connection http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/ "kung walang kurap, walang maghuhuramentadong PNP cop!" Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:50:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Did Villar camp copy Argentinian politico’s ad? | Pro Pinoy http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-37550 Did Villar camp copy Argentinian politico’s ad? | Pro Pinoy Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:27:49 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-37550 [...] post on the Barrio Siete blog was the first to make the connection between the Villar ad and Murphy’s 2006 ad. The ad, which [...] [...] post on the Barrio Siete blog was the first to make the connection between the Villar ad and Murphy’s 2006 ad. The ad, which [...]

]]> By: gensliars http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32721 gensliars Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:19:27 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32721 For one to become "one of the best"... You have to learn and master the "devils workshop" were all the lies, stabbing and immorality are enhanced to the maximum level... then the devil starts making insane ideas for graduation. Every graduate receives a bribe, so more evil will come out. Aside from that, what a crazy idea to have popular womanizer celebrities as their official endorsers. Ain't that so obvious?! Sorry to say this but appreciating them is like living in hell. Don't let them treat us like idiots. I believed our dear presidentiable is an A+ alumni from this workshop. Money manipulates the creative mind, so is the passionate heart. In reality this is the campaign: M"o"nny Vi-lIar For one to become “one of the best”… You have to learn and master the “devils workshop” were all the lies, stabbing and immorality are enhanced to the maximum level… then the devil starts making insane ideas for graduation. Every graduate receives a bribe, so more evil will come out.

Aside from that, what a crazy idea to have popular womanizer celebrities as their official endorsers. Ain’t that so obvious?!

Sorry to say this but appreciating them is like living in hell.
Don’t let them treat us like idiots.

I believed our dear presidentiable is an A+ alumni from this workshop. Money manipulates the creative mind, so is the passionate heart.

In reality this is the campaign: M”o”nny Vi-lIar

]]> By: Archon Digital http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32651 Archon Digital Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:21:36 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32651 Villar is a lost cause. Six years from now Villar will look back and remember how much of a dent on his fat wallet this elections has cost him. I'm pretty sure since you're all fired up about this ad agency that you have a good experience to tell about TBWA/SMP why not let us know? I'm interested to hear about it. Villar is a lost cause. Six years from now Villar will look back and remember how much of a dent on his fat wallet this elections has cost him.

I’m pretty sure since you’re all fired up about this ad agency that you have a good experience to tell about TBWA/SMP why not let us know? I’m interested to hear about it.

]]> By: gensliars http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32647 gensliars Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:35:36 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32647 People, please DONT vote Manny Villar. He hired the craziest agency in the form of TBWA/SMP. Call them the one of the best ad agency, knowing them, their out of the box ideas are all lies. They are overly priced to do that. Both TBWA and VILLAR are bunch of money thieves! Ang alam ko di lang TBWA ang agency behind those campaigns. Di ba kayo natuturn off sa campaigns sobrang pushy sya maging presidente? How much each commercial cost? For sure babawiin din nya yan if ever wag naman sana manalo sya. PLEASE DONT VOTE VILLAR! People, please DONT vote Manny Villar. He hired the craziest agency in the form of TBWA/SMP. Call them the one of the best ad agency, knowing them, their out of the box ideas are all lies. They are overly priced to do that.

Both TBWA and VILLAR are bunch of money thieves!

Ang alam ko di lang TBWA ang agency behind those campaigns.

Di ba kayo natuturn off sa campaigns sobrang pushy sya maging presidente?
How much each commercial cost? For sure babawiin din nya yan if ever wag naman sana manalo sya.

PLEASE DONT VOTE VILLAR!

]]> By: carl http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32400 carl Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:52:22 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32400 I SERIOUSLY HATE VILLAR! Akala niya kaya na niya lokohin mga pinoy. dude, sobrang matatalino na mga pinoy ngayon so malamang they will definitely VOTE WISELY --and that will happen by not voting you! isama mo pa yang vice presidentiable mo na yan. SHE'S FULL OF DRAMA! And halatang she's not telling the truth! kakairita! I SERIOUSLY HATE VILLAR!

Akala niya kaya na niya lokohin mga pinoy. dude, sobrang matatalino na mga pinoy ngayon so malamang they will definitely VOTE WISELY –and that will happen by not voting you!

isama mo pa yang vice presidentiable mo na yan. SHE’S FULL OF DRAMA! And halatang she’s not telling the truth! kakairita!

]]> By: Archon Digital http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32377 Archon Digital Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:40:38 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32377 Truth is, I'm not even sure if the Argentinian version is the very first to use that format as I have previously seen this used for non-policital and environmental issues. I am still looking for an old copy of one VCD I got way back in the 90's. It had a very similar format used for an environmental message did by students when the French did their Muroroa atoll Nuclear test. This was way before Murphy ran and lost (sana si Villar din) in the elections. Sana mahanap ko and I will immediately upload on Youtube. Indeed creative people can be "motivated" by a client's "clout" during a rush job like this, specially from a client like Manny Villar. I've heard first hand how money flows freely on anything related to Villar's ad projects. One sad truth about clients in the Philippines and other third-world countries is that these clients interfere and get too much in the way of the creative process. Truth is, I’m not even sure if the Argentinian version is the very first to use that format as I have previously seen this used for non-policital and environmental issues. I am still looking for an old copy of one VCD I got way back in the 90′s. It had a very similar format used for an environmental message did by students when the French did their Muroroa atoll Nuclear test. This was way before Murphy ran and lost (sana si Villar din) in the elections. Sana mahanap ko and I will immediately upload on Youtube.

Indeed creative people can be “motivated” by a client’s “clout” during a rush job like this, specially from a client like Manny Villar. I’ve heard first hand how money flows freely on anything related to Villar’s ad projects. One sad truth about clients in the Philippines and other third-world countries is that these clients interfere and get too much in the way of the creative process.

]]> By: Archon Digital http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32375 Archon Digital Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:37:59 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32375 Johnonymous, so far we have nothing to prove nor disprove that TBWA did the ad without the permission of the original client in Argentina. And I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt than raise speculation as getting permission is mandatory much like in using of stock footage and photography. If their team had not secured permission then true it would be something that will stain TBWA's reputation and could cause Mangada-Puno to be booted from being a TBWA agency. Johnonymous, so far we have nothing to prove nor disprove that TBWA did the ad without the permission of the original client in Argentina. And I would rather give them the benefit of the doubt than raise speculation as getting permission is mandatory much like in using of stock footage and photography. If their team had not secured permission then true it would be something that will stain TBWA’s reputation and could cause Mangada-Puno to be booted from being a TBWA agency.

]]> By: Johnonymous http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32361 Johnonymous Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:22:08 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32361 By the way, this could be an issue of copyright infringement rather than plagiarism... By the way, this could be an issue of copyright infringement rather than plagiarism…

]]> By: Johnonymous http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32360 Johnonymous Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:19:44 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32360 Archon, if you're talking about local adaptation of central creative campaign and client-approved - this is okay... For example McDonald's global campaign of I'm Lovin' It (tm) and Coca Cola's OPEN HAPPINESS (tm). They are both global companies who would like to reach a unified message to their markets... it's pretty normal. But in the case of Villar and the Argentina team... it is VERY ANOMALOUS. Haven't they agreed on using the same creative route? Are they in contact? Do they have common interest that legally binds them? Whether there is a legal protection in this case, it is very obvious that the treatment was DUPLICATED and by doing so - it is described as a VERY BAD INDUSTRY PRACTICE. Also, TBWA (Argentina) did not mention that it's THEIR PROPRIETARY PRO-BONO AD - this is my biggest question to that agency... Perhaps, this was fully paid by their political client. Clients most likely own the creative rights. I'm sure, the creative team in TBWA/Mangada is not proud of this job, but Villar's money helps the agency run kasi bayad. Weighing between money and creative independence, money weighs more... I have seen ad agencies who rejected their clients over creativity issues... Sana sa Pinas meron din ganyan para lahat ng ad agencies, global or local, highly-motivated to do an excellent and original job... Back to the VILLAR issue, whether legally covered or not, DUPLICATION ito and can be subject to Intellectuall Property legal dispute... at nakakahiya sa industriya ng advertising itong gawaing ganito... nakakahiya! Archon, if you’re talking about local adaptation of central creative campaign and client-approved – this is okay… For example McDonald’s global campaign of I’m Lovin’ It ™ and Coca Cola’s OPEN HAPPINESS ™. They are both global companies who would like to reach a unified message to their markets… it’s pretty normal.

But in the case of Villar and the Argentina team… it is VERY ANOMALOUS. Haven’t they agreed on using the same creative route? Are they in contact? Do they have common interest that legally binds them?

Whether there is a legal protection in this case, it is very obvious that the treatment was DUPLICATED and by doing so – it is described as a VERY BAD INDUSTRY PRACTICE.

Also, TBWA (Argentina) did not mention that it’s THEIR PROPRIETARY PRO-BONO AD – this is my biggest question to that agency… Perhaps, this was fully paid by their political client. Clients most likely own the creative rights.

I’m sure, the creative team in TBWA/Mangada is not proud of this job, but Villar’s money helps the agency run kasi bayad. Weighing between money and creative independence, money weighs more…

I have seen ad agencies who rejected their clients over creativity issues… Sana sa Pinas meron din ganyan para lahat ng ad agencies, global or local, highly-motivated to do an excellent and original job…

Back to the VILLAR issue, whether legally covered or not, DUPLICATION ito and can be subject to Intellectuall Property legal dispute… at nakakahiya sa industriya ng advertising itong gawaing ganito… nakakahiya!

]]> By: Dianne Mandal http://barriosiete.com/argentina-the-philippines-and-the-manny-villar-connection/#comment-32354 Dianne Mandal Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:39:46 +0000 http://barriosiete.com/?p=20353#comment-32354 Manny Villar is a businessman and will always be a businessman. That is why he want to become president so as to protect his own interests. He says that he wants to help the poor. Do you need to become president to do that? Please don't vote for Manny Villar. Dianne Mandal (dazzlin_rishy28@yahoo.com) Manny Villar is a businessman and will always be a businessman. That is why he want to become president so as to protect his own interests. He says that he wants to help the poor. Do you need to become president to do that? Please don’t vote for Manny Villar.

Dianne Mandal (dazzlin_rishy28@yahoo.com)

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