Non-Conforming With Dick Gordon
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I was a fan of Dick Gordon, the man who they called The Flash. He was full of idealism and a natural leader. I would love to be seated next to him. I would love to catch the same breath of air that passes through his sense of national pride.
I first saw him on TV after the tragic 1990 major Luzon earthquake. He was there saving lives in the cities of Baguio and Cabanatuan. Those cities were the hardest hit with several collapsed buildings and hotels. He was then armed with his advanced SBMA units doing search and rescue operations. His efforts are rarely seen from politicians and public servants anywhere in the country. And to think that Olongapo is actually hours away from these cities makes it even more heroic.
Gordon, gadgetry, flash, hero. Who wouldn’t fancy any young guy’s idealism and imagination?
Then I saw him again during the US Bases debates. I personally advocated for the restoration of our national sovereignty and thus against the presence of the US bases in Subic and Clark. While he was on the other side, he got a compelling argument.
The economy of Olongapo and the surrounding areas are deeply dependent on these bases. And taking them out without proper plans on how to transform the bases without affecting local economies would be crucial for the local people. He knew what he wanted and he knows how to do it. The magnificent 12 wanted the bases out but lack the vision on how to transform these bases.
He, as far as I see on the national debates, has one. He was young, surrounded by young lawyers, young activists, and fresh faces. There was a new hope that springs upon his face every time I see him on TV. He was simply charismatic.
Then I came to Olongapo…
I saw organization. All were organized. From the business community down to the balut vendors and the magbobote, they all have their organizations with their matching uniforms and identifying colors.
What’s wrong with that you say? Nothing. Except that you cannot do business if you are not a member. You cannot sell balut if you are not one of them. What’s wrong again with that you say? Well, you cannot be a member if you don’t follow the rules. There’s nothing wrong about having rules right?
Not if there’s only one rule. Their rules.
With all their famous agitating slogans that you can see all over Olongapo’s walls, he got one that is not so famous among Olongapenos, “Kung ayaw mo sa patakaran ko, lumayas ka ng Olongapo!”
Now it certainly makes me wonder IF he becomes President.
Political Dynasty may not necessarily be bad but nepotism is definitely at it worst here. You had no choice but the Gordons. Streets, hospitals, schools, they’re all named Gordon. You had no choice but whatever they say your choice would be. The congressman, the city mayor down to mere barangay councilors are all Gordons. The SBMA was also run by Dick Gordon at that time until Erap took him out. And only until recently, a Magsaysay took over the Congress position.
Public utilities were under city hall. Water, electricity, garbage. And by experience, they can use their power over these PUD’s to put anybody back in line. I knew a lot of people who got tired of voting for Gordon and guess what? They put the lights out of their business until they went bankrupt.
For two years, I got no job in Olongapo because I refuse to follow the rules. The main job source was the SBMA which was run by them. At that time, applicants were required to provide voter’s ID. This is for them to map out where you vote so they can ask the barangay leader there if you are “one of them.”
For outsiders, the presence of organizations and usual unified mobilization in Olongapo shows a vibrant democratic process. Little did they know that all these are mobilized and organized only under one name, and only under one rule.
Non-conformity is strictly forbidden.
So when I first heard about the Transformers a.k.a. the Gordon-Bayani team-up, I was amused but not surprised. They simply belong together.
You see while it may seem it is but necessary to have rules and organization, in the greater scheme of things, leaving people out of options is not only dreadful, it is despotic in nature. Organization without leaving room for discourse is a democratic façade for dictatorship.
Besides, even religions give us the option to use our free will.
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BURAOT is your quintessential skeptic but a not-yet-so-hopeless pessimist. Impatient most of the time, hence the name, he yearns to discover the magnanimity of the universe and the infinite folly of human stupidity (yep, that was Einstein's). And yes, oo.. he also want world peace. You can stalk him out at Anak ni Kulapo and I Am Buraot.
Hmm. Very interesting, Buraot — thanks for sharing!
i got more in the bag Lila. i am not about to say it anymore since they were well over 10 years ago. but these PR guys pisses me off. besides, people need to know.
i read it again buraot hehehe and funny while i was reading and understanding it, Gordon was not on my mind – it was the PBA hahaha or the Influentials hahahah i had no clue why they came into my mind when i was reading your article hehehe GUESS haha
Thanks for this entry Mr. B. It is enlightening. Like what u said, people need to know. The PR guys? Never mind, umiinit lang ulo ko. Hehehe.
sa PR world, ok lang yung spin. pero yung outright lies and manufacturing facts, di uso yun. pwera lang kung talagang unethical ka gaya nila.
Exactly Mr. B my reason kaya nakakapikon sila. Sinungaling to the highest level.
Hi Buraot, this is a very good wake up poke for the “mesmerized” Gordon converts, can I repost this at noypi-ako.com. We have so many Gordon Makulets there!!!
sure Engr. Jojo.
B, check out my comment in Toto’s “My Apology to Gordon”…
Kita-kits tayo ni Reynz sa April, ha? Would be nice to meet u.
hey B & L, not sure about being home in April, magasto hehehe i was just home this Christmas hahaha!
BTW, this was pretty enlightening for people who have not experienced how it is to be inside Olongapo, me y mi familia lived there when I still had no clue about the world then moved to Bicol..
on a positive note (at least i think it to be)… didn’t Gordon did a pretty good job with the bases conversion? i mean, when they bag fed ex alone to be like “THE” symbol of how good the conversion was, would you comment on this?
hoy reynz. umuwi ka ng April, wag mo akong indyanin! wahahah!
credit should first go to those men and women who made the Bases Conversion and Development Act into law. but in fairness to him, he did an excellent job in making the law work. his charisma and his loyal followers and the thousand of volunteers should be commended.
but we should not forget his vested interest in doing so.
Correct me if I’m wrong. Was it Gordon who was ‘pushing’ na ikulong ang NBN-ZTE star witness Jun Lozada during the senate hearing?
I did not know about that Mel, let’s wait for anyone to respond. What I know was about this story I read about Abu Sayyaf where Gordon was seeking amnesty? Here’s the entry in the barrio:
http://barriosiete.com/amnesty-sa-abu-sayyaf/
Gordon I think was the Committee Chair handling that case. And yes, one of their recommendation is the filing of a case against Jun Lozada.
To answer the questions:
- He was the Blue Ribbon Committee chair in the NBN-ZTE in aid of legislation.
- Said committee also recommended GMA should be accountable for that anomaly.
- Said committee recommended Joe De Venecia and Jun Lozada for trial as accomplices. His argument was that they should have blown the whistle RIGHT AFTER they were offered the deal at hindi lang porke hindi nanalo ung deal ni De Venecia kaya sya magrereklamo.
- He made Whistleblower Law after to address that issue. Para malinaw kung sino ang whistleblower.
Korek Mel. I remember that. Si Jun Lozada pa ang gustong ipakulong ni Gordon.
link on the comment above.. http://www.malaya.com.ph/sep02/news3.htm
Thanks for the link Ate Lani. People should remember this.
That’s the problem with Gordon. Masyadong self-righteous na pag hindi nakuha ang gusto niya, nagmamaktol. Does anyone remember him challenging Serge Osmena to a fist fight within the halls of the Senate? Yes he may be what many would call an “action man” but he is a tradpol in so many ways!
please also do not forget the Siege of Building 229 inside the SBMA. It was when his loyal supporters attacked police and Estrada-installed Payumo administration with rocks and broken bottles.
this one?
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2479&dat=20060611&id=JlU1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=eSUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=3390,11832300
Buraot, what were those rules, be specific, and why are they necessarily bad. This way we could verify and analyze.
Thanks!
Paano naman makikinabang ang taong bayan sa negosyo na itatayo nila sa subic kung laging negosyante lang ang makikinabang. Gordon simply want to unite the filipino people and even understand those people who had ben misguided due to LACK OF EDUCATIOn.
give Gordon a Chance. we have one chance to turn this country around but we need a good leader. kung magpapa-balat sibuyas kayo at papa uto dun sa mga kandidatong “mind changer” at playing safe magsalita para lang ma-amuse ang publiko, nasa sanyo yan.
but i beg to all you, reconsider, do give gordon a chance. Gordon is aggressive but i guess this is what we most Filipinos are lacking..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w5jimiULj4
I do respect your decision to vote for some one else. have a great day
Mon, honestly I was a bit surprised to see someone from the Gordon camp to comment without really attacking the author. Which was new to me. And I welcome dissenting opinions and am open to criticisms. But your comment made me think of gentlemen on the other side of the fence.
I drink beer with opposing sides when I was in Olongapo knowing real well that we are enemies. But arguments and fights can also be a gentleman’s act right?
I hope those fanatics would simply come to their senses knowing that the world is simply diverse.
But everybody have their own mind and preferences. My personal take and by experience, is that Gordon rules as a despot.
It’s not despotic when you demand your constituents to follow rules or the law, its called strong leadership. This is why we need someone who sets an example and is capable of implementing those rules to instill discipline to the Filipinos. Masyado kc tayong walang disiplina. Just compare how people behave when they are in Olongapo & Subic and when in other places.
This is a norm in first world and progressive nations. And when you have a leader who can make it happen, you call him a despot? Dick is right all along, its the mentality of most Filipinos that keeps us from achieving our full potential.
sherwin, it IS despotic when you suppress people’s rights and opinions. in Olongapo only his opinion matters, nobody else.
you might want to check also what happened when Erap appointed Payumo and fired Gordon as SBMA chief. it clearly shows how he and his supporters themselves violate and bend the rules of law. mobs attacking civilians and police.
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The word “democracy” is overused, democracy is not the key for true progress, it is discipline.
I respect your opinion, but all the things that you were saying are all hearsay, yes, all the schools, hospitals, etc are named after Gordon, pero alam mo ba kung bakit un nakapangalan sa kanila? Kasi project nila, sila ang naginitiate para magkaroon ng schools and hospitals and other establishments. Now think, how many schools and hospitals are named after Noynoy Aquino in Tarlac? Maybe Cory Aquino or Ninoy Aquino but i think walang Noynoy Aquino. Bakit? because wala syang project sa lugar nila or kahit saan man sa Pilipinas. Logic lang.. Maybe naming a school or hospital after you is a “trapo-ish” act but hey, those schools and hospitals are still serving its purpose.
I respect your opinion Mr. B but and i dont know who your presidential bet may be but, please respect Mr. Gordon’s accomplishments, Olongapo owe their success to Mr. Gordon, and we Olongapo is a model city because of him..
And i quote your you “For two years, I got no job in Olongapo because I refuse to follow the rules”.And you complaining about having rules speaks clearly of your character, kaya siguro wala ka makuhang trabaho sa Olongapo because of your attitude..
cliff, politicians naming schools hospitals and other PUBLIC properties maybe their project, but it was used using public funds. besides, Gordon Ave is already an avenue. they did not made it. Gordon Hospital was Olongapo General Hospital. they just renamed it. and pretty much with their name on it.
this is not hearsay. like you I am from Olongapo too. this is simply nepotism.
I can’t get a job at SBMA when he was Chairman becuase I don’t follow the rules, a.k.a., I am not pro-Gordon nor am not apolitical. yung mga kontra sa patakaran nya, malabong makakuha ng trabaho. only those who are walang pakialam at mga followers nya ang nagkakatrabaho at that time.
my attitide is not the problem, it was his policy of conformity.
Pera ba ng mga Gordons and ginamit dun sa mga projects?
amen to you mon, sherwin and cliff. hehe! what i like about gordon is that he has a plan for this country. if youre gonna ask him about his plans he is going to point it out to you step by step. sure other candidates also has plans but are these achievable and tangible? gordon is a breath of fresh air. we have seen someone like noynoy before in cory. cory is a great inspiration but as a leader of a country? i think you already know what happened in her term. i think we need an exciting leader and that is what gordon brings. we need an idealistic leader which has a “can do” attitude. im going to vote for gordon even if all of the surveys point to noynoy and villar. why? because i believe in what he brings to the table.
BTW…”only a dead fish swims with the current”
fyi, i am not pro-Noynoy, just in case you guys ask. i neither swims with the current nor a dead fish.
i am not asking anybody to change their views, we all are different.
Yeah, like Red Cross volunteers having to wait for him before relief goods can be distributed. Sus, Gordon trapo pa rin. Tuta ni GMA. Asan ang prinsipyo?
I know someone from Red Cross and he told me that there is no such incident like that, kung may mga relief daw na hindi agad nabigay ito daw ay dahil SOP daw na mkicoordinate muna with the local government bgo magbigay, Red Cross has been independent naman kahit chairman pa nila si gordon.
Hello…I’m a second year college student who will be doing a debate about if Dick Gordon should be the next president of our country…I’m in the opposition side…so I’m against Dick GOrdon being president…but I am having trouble researching about arguments that can make me win the debate because all of what I had researched was all about Gordon’s achievements and I don’t see anything that can make me say that he should not be president…Would you please help me..? can you give me atleast 3 arguments that will prove that Gordon should NOT be the next president..? Please and thank you..
nicole,
here is one on these 3 part article. he got no respect for human rights. he’s a despot.
i’ll have some more articles soon.
Nicole,
The simple truth is in Gordon’s 2 decades of being a politician (and his overlapping 4 decades in the Red Cross), he did accomplished a number of good things (most of which we remain proud of, to this day) and his political opponents would ofcourse trumpet things that remain insinuations, hearsay, cases filed but without closure and finality, etc.
He is simply a doer, one who makes things happen, one who yields results wherever he goes (Subic Free Port Zone as SBMA Chairman, successful WOW Philippines campaign as Tourism Secretary, Automated Elections as Senator)…etc.
You will definitely have a hard time defending your point, unless you will believe Buraot, who seems to have an agenda which doesn’t include having a prosperous and developed Philippines…
Goodluck !
and what do you think is my agenda Jet? (if that is your real name)
why, i have given all the details. anyone can verify all these. of course at the end of the day, it is up to the people to believe or not. but then again, who would believe a simple guy like me, i’m just a blogger. your idol Gordon is out there with all the PR he could get.
and of course he’s a doer. as i have said over and over, nobody is contesting his achievements. i don’t have to mention them all. just google “Gordon” and that is all you can see, rubbing our collective noses. what i am providing here is a contrary viewpoint of a person who had no access to big media nor government resources.
my name and my face is open for all to see.
Hi Buraot,
My name is Jet Pampolina…google me… I have nothing to hide.
I have a day job so I dont have time to post a pic beside my comments… I am just sick and tired of people demonizing people…
Why can’t we all just work together to improve our country…instead of putting down an achiever politician.
Btw, I am an idealist, and still believes that theres is such a thing as a good politican.
Mabuhay tayong lahat !!
Jet
hi Jet. good thing. we here at the barrio had nothing to hide too. but nobody is demonizing people. since when is telling the truth demonizing?
it is also not about putting down a politician. in the midst of all the smoke, we need to sift beyond it and really see the truth. all of them politicians highlight their achievements. sino bang hindi?
we need idealists like you Jet. and the country needs idealists who are vigilant and can read beyond and above what is PR. as an idealist yourself, i’m sure you do not want another person who tramples the common people’s civil liberties.
and yes, we can always find a good politician.
u said working in the public sector is impossible unless u are pro-gordon.
how do they know if you are pro-gordon or not? is there a loyalty oath? is there a direct question?
oh, they know. like I said, the whole of Olongapo is organized. and these organizations served as people monitors. So everybody knows who is for whom. these are fiercely loyal.
at the sbma, a voter’s ID complete with the precint number was officially part of the requirements for job applicants.
look at what happened to me at the Operating Room on the other article “A Day in a Life in Olongapo”, the doctor at the Gordon hospital was directly asking me, “atin ka ba?”
I agree with gabbyD, how will gordon know if you are pro or against him, Do you think he will waste his time screening those applicants, i think this statements are from the Magsaysay’s. Im not from Olongapo but most of my friends in Olongapo take pride on their city and they believe that the Gordon’s are the ones instrumental sa pagiging model city ng olongapo.
flicker,
to be honest, i am deeply insulted by that statement. if you check your sources, this articles are NOT from the Magsaysay. i am here in the states and I have no connections with the Magsaysays.
to tell you the truth, during the 1997 election, I have run and organized a gubernatorial campaign for a neophyte but progressive candidate in Zambales against then incumbent Governor Vic Magsaysay. it is because I personally believe Magsaysay is another of Gordon’s kind. They are the same, corrupt politicians coming from a political dynasty.
i am not in favor for political dynasties nor am i in favor of corruption and trapo politics. so if anybody says this is in connection to this coming Olongapo mayoral election is clearly mistaken. i am writing about Dick Gordon, not Bong Gordon. but hey they’re brothers.
regarding those application requirements, of course he wouldn’t do it personally. Marcos himself don’t torture people? it’s his people. But we blame Marcos right? why? we all know the answer.
I am from Olongapo, and I take pride on our people being instrumental in bringing about the idea of volunteerism. It’s only sad to see that one family, ONE FAMILY, not the whole of Olongapo are areaping the benefits.
cliff, flicker, dickhead.. why don;t you just concentrate on one name? nililito mo pa kami, iisang tao ka lang naman…
To nicole:
Kahit ako i dont have any arguments kung bakit hindi sya dapat maging presidente ng pilipinas. He’s too good para hindi iconsider ng mga tao. kung si noynoy or villar pa yan, i have a hundred reasons why not to vote for them.. hehe
lots of people don;t have any arguments why they would not vote for Gordon. i am here to provide them with a few.
nicole, do your research. but dig deeper and be critical. don;t rely on the big media that’s readily available. the system is corrupt, and the corrupt corrupt others. be independent of your research. good luck. if you have questions, i am willing to provide more information that may be of help.
@Buraot,
Thats the way the world goes, the leader are the one the world notices. Because they are the ones who lead the people. Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, etc. They did not do it alone, syempre may mga soldiers sila before. My point is, olongapo is were it is now because of its leaders, and hindi naman sinosolo ni gordon ung credit, if you happen to see ung mga forums na inaatendan ni gordon, he always credit ung mga volunteers ng olongapo di ba? Di ko alam kung bakit bigla ka na lang naging defensive mode, my point lang is give the man his due, The people cannot do it alone, they need a good leader. Makikita mo sa pinas, lahat ng tao is clamoring sa pagbabago, but kapag lagi nilang inihahalal ung mga walang kwentang leader, ganun at ganun lang mangyayari satin.
And bago ka manira, ask yourself, ano nga ba nagawa mo para sa bayan mo sa olongapo?
“And bago ka manira, ask yourself, ano nga ba nagawa mo para sa bayan mo sa olongapo?”
you were doin’ pretty good with your commenting and here’s the typical line again. i know you are directing this to Buraot but this is a pretty common tirade to Reyna Elena in so many thread here.
i believe the experience that Buraot had made in his entries (days part 1, 2 & 3) showing the world or the Filipinos to stand up to what is right is one noble and credible contribution enough – forget the fact that like me, he is an overseas Filipino putting in $$$ into that over $15 billion being remitted to the local economy which essentially shielded the country to so many crisis, the latest of which was the US financial crisis. this might be hard to quantify in terms of Buraot’s contribution to the Philippines in general, but I thought the line of questioning was not right no more.
flicker.. or rather dickhead.. or cliff.. ano ba talaga name mo kuya?
basahin mo mo kaya ang article ulit ang mga statements ko. i am giving the man his due. he is an excellent and charismatic leader. he is a good administrator and an excellent politician. malinaw na siguro?
what i’m saying is beyond those PR lies the truth that he is a budding tyrant who only helps those who voted for him and loyal to him. if i voted for FPJ and GMA won, does that mean i am not entitled to government’s resources?
i am not defensive man. it’s just that instead of us arguing about the merits of the issue, sasabihin mo statements ng Magsaysay ito? anong kinalaman ni Magsaysay dito? alam mo at alam ko na there is a battle between Magsaysay at Gordon sa mayoralty ng Olongapo. but i’m not talking about it here, am I?
and I find it insulting dahil si Magsaysay ay isa ring trapo na hindi dapat iboto, and I don’t want to be associated with a trapo.
nagawa ko sa Olongapo? i don’t have to do anything to say anything, the taxes that I pay alone would be enough to suffice my friend. but try reading some more articles, you might learn something new.
its not with the name dude, mga points dapat mo tingnan. hehe. blood pressure mo baka tumaas. hehe
i am looking at your points dude. kaya lang sana maging consistent ka sana, eh kahit yung name na ginagamit mo inconsistent ka eh. ano ba talaga kuyang?
blood pressure? naku, ni buhok ko sa ilong hindi tatayo sa yo.
@ reynz, whose reyna elena. i was lost there.
i am the “reynz” the “reyna elena”.
the point is – must one really have to have a contribution to the society to be afforded his right to speech? which is why the last line of questioning to buraot was not right and/or fair. that’s my point.
response?
hay naku, basta hindi ko iboboto si gordon dahil isa siyang pikon. nagagalit kapag hindi makalusot or hindi masagot ng maayos ang tinatanong lalo na kung unfavorable sa kanya. period.
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wait wait, how do you describe a troll? and how does changing name become an issue. lets concentrate on the points of argument. Im not flooding your blog post or something. I respect your opinions about mr dick and hope you respect mine, and if your gonna block me, no problem. I said my points of arguments and im not asking you to change your mind. Ok peace.
not much explanation flicker, dickhead, cliff or whatever other name you use – but we’ve been bombarded with comments in the past from one person who even went to the extent of having a fight with himself.
let’s just limit it to a meaningful conversation less the troll personality.
Thanks Mr. B for this. Alam mo nyo ba na dala ni Dick ang style sa pamamalakad sa red cross. Yung description nyo ganun na ganun. Buti na lang na kolelat siya surveys (for president) . Laki takot ko if nasa taas siya. Ang kawawa ngayon ang RC. Ginagamit nya masyado and pinaratify pa charter to gain more control. Di ko alam ano mangyayari sa kanila. Takot naman ang mga tao baka mawalan ng trabaho at wala din ipin ang iba grupo (even international body). Kaya panginoon na lang bahala sa kanila.
Oo na ako kung action man but if you are using others as means to an end iba na yun. Siguro sa mga nakapalibot at may biyaya ok lang yun but sa mga nag-iisip ibang usapan na yun.
Sige pa Mr B ipagpatuloy mo and more power.
pinanga, actually kahit dun sa DOT nung naging secretary sya, me mga nag-rally pa nga kontra din sa kanya.
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After reading this article, mas malaki lalo ang kompyansa ko kay Gordon.
Mas lalong gusto ko syang maging Presidente.
Nagtataka ako bakit sa ibang bansa, kaya naman sumunod ng mga kababayan natin sa patakaran.
At kahit sa ibang bansa, ganun din naman, kung di mo kayang sumunod sa batas at patakaran nila, lumayas ka! At kahit na hindi mo gusto ang patakaran, susunod ka pa rin, hindi ka lalayas dahil alam mong mas maganda sa lugar na yun.
Sa Subic, para kang nasa ibang bansa. Maayos, malinis, organized. Ang sarap tumira. Dahil nagawa ni Gordon na pasunurin ang mga tao sa batas. At yun ang kailangan ng Pilipinas ngayon. Sumunod sa batas.
Sabi nga ni NoyNoy, as a senator, hindi nya kailangan gumawa ng batas… dahil marami ng batas… kailangan na lang ay iimplement. The problem is, walang napatunayan si Noynoy sa pagpapatupad ng batas.
Si Gordon… subok na… kaya nyang ipatupad ang batas.
pogi, i’m with you on that. si Gordon at Bayani ay may political wills na ipatupad ang batas. no argument over there.
katulad ng sagot dun sa ibang thread, at what expense? now if we agree on that expense, then so be it.
sabi nga, we deserve the kind of government we would have.
Lol @ Buraot and Reynz.
Here you are condemning the Gordons about implementing rules that benefit the society… rules that were strictly enforced that made your city a model city.
Eh kayo nga gusto nyo rin masunod ang rules nyo diba? By threatening to ban someone who used different names, rather than focusing on the issues. Isn’t it the same as saying, “Sundin nyo ang batas namin, or PALALAYASIN namin kayo”. Ni wala ngang choice yung tao kung pwede sya mag stay or hindi. Unlike you, kahit na ayaw mo sumunod sa patakaran, di ka nila pinalayas, you were given the choice to leave or stay.
I’m not saying your rules are wrong. They are there for a reason. The rules are there to create order. And the rules need to be enforced. So go ahead and ban flicker.
Pogi,
I am generally condemning the kind of politics and politicians we have, trapo and have no regard to people’s rights. we don’t have to agree on that of course, and I am not forcing anyone to agree as well. you have your own opinion, and I have mine.
ikaw man halimbawa ang magreklamo sa gobyerno, susulat ka ng complaint, tatlo ang isusulat mo pero di ka naman nagpapakilala at iniiba mo pangalan mo, ano ibig sabihin nun? eh di nanloloko ka lang.
ganun din yun.
Buraot nagagalit ka nde ka naka hanap ng work sa SBMA noon.. baka kasi nde ka qualified or maybe over qualified ka… masyado mo naman dinibdib yun. at nung nasa ospital ka tinanong ka kung taga atin ka… baka tinatanong ka kung taga gapo ka. maraming bagay na mimiss interpret ng mga tao minsan dahil maling tanong.
Muka naman college graduate ka… at nung bago pa lang SBMA karamihan ng trabaho sa loob was Security officer or mag volunteer ka.
Masyado mo lang dinamdam yan. nasa states ka kamo siguro american citizen ka… so ngayon nde ka maka pag absentee votee so galit ka pa rin nde ka makaboto againts him…
move on bro…
magpakatotoo ka Truth. pa truth truth ka pa.
nasagot na yang tanong mo na yan. lahat ng pro-gordon na naligaw dito tinanong na yan. bakit di mo ulit basahin yang nakasulat dito.
tingin mo ba naman naniniwala ka na yung tanong na “atin” ay ibig sabihin taga-olongapo? bat hindi itinanong kung taga-rito ka sa halip na atin? wag na kayong magmaang-maangan. alam naman nating lahat kung ano ibig sabihin, nagtatanga tangahan lang tayo.
at bakit ako magagalit kung nasa states na ako.i can still vote. what’s that got to do with it anyway.
Buraot, Reynz
Thanks for this article, Its a great indicator ng pag-angat ni GORDON sa presidential race. THreat na sya ngaun sa bumabagsak na campaign ni Noynoy noh?hahaahha Really?! Is this the best you can come up with in trying to bring him down? That he enforces rules to unacceptable extent at nahirapan ka, so dahil dun so dictator na sya. WTF?! SOUR GRAPING po ang tawag jan! Porke di ka makahanap ng trabaho kasi ayaw mong sumunod sa batas, masama na ang gobyerno?! Well everyone else is enjoying the benefits of that strong leadership..so why should we listen to one lonely sour-graping critic.
Pogi made a very good point about implementing rules. Anlakas ng loob mo reynz magsabi na pag di sumunod sa one ip one username policy nyo iba-ban yet here you are narereklamo about a guy who says if you cant follow the rules, get out. Anung pinagkaiba nun. WAPAK! Sagutin nyo ang argument na yan. If di nyo kayang pangatawanan ang topic na inihain nyo, better not write it in the first place. But then again, what should I expect, Noynoy supporters are sanay nga pala sa “AH BASTA” mentality.:D
GORDON WILL ENFORCE RULES AND WE WILL BE PROGRESSIVE BECAUSE OF IT. NOW IF YOUR LIVING IN A CLEAN, SAFE AND ORGANIZE COUNTRY MAKING $5000 A MONTH ON YOUR FIRST JOB, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AND PROGRESS THAT GORDON SYSTEM GAVE US, MAGREREKLAMO KA PA BA? I WONT.
kubeta,
matagal ng nasagot yang isyung sinasabi mo. at hindi porke nagrereklamo, sourgraping na. lahat ba ng nagrereklamo, sourgraping na?
yung rules dito sa blog i guess can be answered by reynz. but ikaw kaya subukan mo maging mayor, me magreklamo sa yo, iisang tao lang pero iniiba iba ang pangalan, di mo kaya paalisin? di mo pwedeng ikumpara yun sa rules regarding gordon. magkaiba yun. kung tingin mo pareho yun, eh bahala ka na.
at para mas malinaw sa yo, at that time na sinasabi ko, di ko kelangan magtrabaho para lang mabuhay. i can afford it. ang sinasabi ko, papano yung mga di afford, they will give up their rights and dedma lang kahit alam nilang mali dahil kelangan nila ng trabaho.
so if you say you were earning $5000 a month di ka na magrereklamo? ikaw siguro kasi wala kang pakialam. ako, same thing, pag may nakita akong di tama, magrereklamo pa din ako. that’s everybpdy’s right to complain.
kung ikaw ayaw mong magreklamo pag may nakikita kang mali, ikaw yun.
Quobetah:
I don’t think anyone is bringing him down. If there is one, his name is PAUL FAROL.
What you guys should do is write articles and teach and/or show us why Dick Gordon is better and what he has done instead of attacking Noynoy supporters or those who do not believe about Dick Gordon.
DICK GORDON will not win this election.
Exactly because his supporters have no clue how to win supporters.
Gordon’s supporters choose to attack ideas presented by supporters of other candidates by nere reason, because rational analysis palang on the right candidate to choose, wala na talagang mas gaganda pa ky DICK GORDON.
“ARE YOU SURE?! DO YOU KNOW WHO PAUL FAROL IS? HE IS A RABID GORDON SUPPORTE. AND HE IS PERSONALLY ATTACKING REYNA ELENA.” Here’s a sample: http://barriosiete.com/paul-farols-determination-to-harm-reyna-elena/ This is La Kapitana inserting this comment.
We campaign thru links, facts, evidences, actual infrastructure, data and records to back up our arguments NOT OPINIONS. We are treating the other supporters with respect by challenging them to use their intelligence, because we know the filipinos are indeed smart. Di kami umaasa sa emotional hostage, sa drama, sa pagpapakyut, sa pagpapakaawa – thats a disgusting treatment to the intellect of the filipino people, pinagmumukha tayong gago na pwede lang kumbinsihin ng iba ibang mind conditioning tactics so we will agree to crap even though we know ots crap, Ah Basta yun dapat. IF TREATING FILIPINOS AS DIGNIFIED INTELLIGENT VOTERS IS NOT THE PROPER WAY TO GET SUPPORTERS, THEN I GUESS YOUR THE ONE WHO SHOULD CHANGE YOUR TACTIC.
You guys only hold on to the winnablility imgae so much, to paid surveys, which as we all know is rigged, and is believed only by 16% of registered voters in the first place. Kung dahilan lang sa mga unreliable infos na to ang assumption nyo na andaming supporters ni Noynoy at sihgurado ng panalo na sya..bwahahahahaha!! Kawawa, pinaglololoko nyo sarili nyo.:D I
f my insider kayo sa Noynoy camp, magtanung! You know you guys pay for these surveys to put your manok on top, and you know you commission the black propaganda to stain villar. You know the mind conditioning tactics that your playing. Well, 14Million filipinos are regularly online now, WE ARE FAR SMARTER AND MORE INFORMED THAN YOU THINK. As shown by countless mock polls, Gibo and Gordon top most of them – THE TWO MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. Kung sa tingin nyo mananalo talaga ang manok nyo…BWAHAHAAHAAHA! Think again.:D
I can attest na hindi totoo ang “Kung ayaw mo sa patakaran ko, lumayas ka ng Olongapo!” slogan sa amin. Madali gumawa ng kwento at paniwalain ng hindi mga-taga Olongapo. Nagtrabaho din ako sa SBMA at never ako hiningan ng voter’s ID.
I am born and raised in Olongapo at na-witness ko lahat ng pinagdaanan ng Olongapo lalo na after the earthquake and Mt. Pinatubo erruption at nakita ko kung gano ka-effective si Sen. Gordon as a leader. He made us all believe that we can work together and made us all part of his vision. Sinong leader ang kayang imotivate ang mga tao na magtrabaho ng libre para mapanatiling maayos at hindi manakaw ang facilities ng Subic American base tulad ng nangyari sa Clark Air Base. Ang tanging pangakong binigay nya ay kapag nagkaroon na ng mga investors at trabaho ay kami din ang unang makikinabang. He instilled discipline and made us believe in ourselves that our skills are at par with other nations.
Marami din nagsabi na hindi doable at pangarap lang ang SBMA pero nagawa naming mga taga-Olongapo dahil sa leadership ni Sen. Gordon
Jorene,
yung slogan na yun di mo pa narinig? wahahah! and you say taga Olongapo ka? wahahha, that’s a joke right?
anyway, i am not contesting Gordon’s effectivity as a leader and his skills at making people believe that we Olongapoenos can. any charismatic and good speaker can do that.
and I for one can say that the we the Filipinos can rise above this slump that we are currently in.
my concern, and my cause if you may, is to let the people know that we can do this without giving up our rights and without being used by scheming politicians.
now you probably was never asked for you voter’s ID. then you and your family probably was in his eminence god races then. which is good for you. how about those who were not?
Okay let us just say that Gordon is not a perfect leader. His ways may not be favorable to everyone and he may have done something wrong but I think, politicians in general are like that. I don’t think that there is a politician with no negative issues hunting him. The difference with Gordon is that his deeds resulted to more good than bad. Many benefited in his strong leadership. His rules, though very strict are primarily meant to discipline the people, which I think many will agree, our country badly needs. You said that “rules are not bad, except if there is only one rule–their rule”, but I ask, are those rules for the benefit of the Gordons alone and for the disadvantage of the majority? Do you say “their rule” just because they made it? In the bigger picture, why are these rules made and who benefits?
I don’t really know the current status of the people in Subic, but are they still complaining? After Gordon’s term, did they feel that they would have been better off without him? Would it be the same if Gordon did not implement “his rules”? I bet that most thanked Gordon for what he did. Implementation may have been painful but it resulted to better things.
I see this as something similar to the pink fences, squatter relocation, and other disciplinarian efforts the MMDA did. Many opposed these efforts, some also said that human rights were violated when the squatters’ homes were torn down, some said that they are all “panggulo” especially the pink fences along edsa especially the motorists. But in the end, weren’t these all made for a better metro manila? Isn’t the metro more organized, the people more disciplined in crossing the streets and in driving their cars? Didn’t it reduce traffic? The squatters, isn’t it just right to relocate them to somewhere else since in the first place, they shouldn’t be “squatting”? Rules are there to discipline us and rules are made to make our lives generally better.
From the articles I have read, almost everything points to his achievements and to him being the most qualified for the position. And I agree to one of the comments above that it is hard finding for reasons why NOT to vote for him. If he seriously violated rights and other negative stuffs, shouldn’t that have been broadcast? It would have been easy because it is obvious that the media doesn’t favor Gordon.
Still, among the other candidates, he proves that he has the best capability to transform our nation into something more progressive, even through his unpopular ways. Also, I refuse to accept that he is a despot, I believe he is more of a disciplinarian. And there lies the huge difference.
In the end, like in Subic and a bit similar in the Metro, I think our country needs to be disciplined. I would rather choose an unpopular leader who knows how to implement rules to the end of bringing PROGRESSIVE CHANGE than any other popular bets who simply make motherhood statements and use the media to boost their image but in the end, produce the same results. With the other candidates, I cannot see life any different. I want change and I can only trust that to one person. GO GORDON!!!!
shouldn’t it be broadcast? hehhe. sadly that’s how our media works. at kung di pa nagkaron ng Maguindanao Massacre, di pa natin malalaman na marami palang pinapatay ng mga Ampatuan dun sa probinsya nila.
if we step back and look at it quite frankly, kahit sino ang iniupo mo sa SBMA after the bases pull-out, it would have the same outcome. kasi hindi naman si Gordon ang SBMA at hindi SBMA si Gordon. it was the the law that created the BCDA that governed such institution kaya nagkaron ng SBMA at charter nito.
we need to move beyond politics of personality at tingan ang plataporma. kung titingnan natin mabuti, malabnaw naman ang plataporma ng bagumbayan. ang matino pa at mas may malinaw ay ang plataporma nina Perlas, JC Delos Reyes at Bro. Eddie.
same here.. i live here in Olongapo.. libutin pa po ang gapo, wala kang makikita na slogan saying: “Kung ayaw mo sa patakaran ko, lumayas ka ng Olongapo!”… never heard!.. hearsay lng… i was shocked when i read that here.. npaka false ng slogan na yan.. i respect what you say.. pero please do re checks sa mga researches po.. suyudin niyo ang olongapo,.. ask the people.. and by the way po,.. kapag ang isang tao may nasabi o nagawa, that doesnt mean the majority supports that.. hindi reliable ang source.. ahaha.. i apply what im learning!.. needs validity!!!.. and may fairness everytime may assessment..
… i do research when it comes to topics like these
.. a college student is speaking .. i am from olongapo, i study at Gordon College, kahit pro Magsaysay nag aaral sa school namin, tumatakbo pa nga as councilor sa party nila eh.. ahehe wala basis iba niyong sinasabi po,.. and sa GORDON COLLEGE.. almost all the students SCHOLAR ng GOVERNMENT.. npaka gaan po ng life as a student, at mga prof. reliable.. npka ganda ng sistema here sa city namin.. every leader should have rules na kailangan sundin di ba..
God also gave rules.. diba po may free will??.. but, if we choose to disobey his rules anong result? diba po ruin??.. pero pag sinunod for the better..
hindi naman tayo pinapatay ni Lord pag nagkakasala tayo.. that was way back sa old testament.. well what im saying is, kapag sumusunod naman sa rules tayo din ang nag bebenefit.. its PRIDE kung kaya di natin masunod ang rules.. anyway.. you cannot please everybody naman eh, kaya kahit ano pang marinig natin kung ano nasa mind and heart natin yun pa din susundin natin
pero ang want ko lng malinaw eh yung tungkol sa slogan.. that’s NOT TRUE!!!!… kahit dynasty na sila, e kung mahusay sila bakit hindi po natin bigyan ng chance.. even sa school namin hindi po pinapakielaman kung kninong presidentiable ka.. we often talk about the coming elections pero wala kang maririnig na Olongapenos na ifo-force kang iboto si Dick!.. they let us search kung ano ba talaga tama..
im sorry kung para akong nagtetext sa cellphone.. nksnayan ko na din po kasi..
well as a second year college, i speak for Gordon.. i’m not a fan, i’m not a critic, i’m a youth who does researches (requires:validation and reliability of source, proofs).. you see everyone, RESEARCH MAKES SENSE.. nowadays, dapat no time na tayo to be biased.. at first NOYNOY ako.. but when i knew what Dick did outside the walls of OLONGAPO,.. i started liking him..
i hope i have shown respect po sa way ng pagkasabi ko.. im sorry po if i went beyond my limitations sa pagsalita ko..
.. i just want to clear things. check how disciplined ang mga taga gapo among any other places..
dont settle for less mga ate mga kuya
.. its my first time to vote.. and i will use it right.. kaya mga ate mga kuya, the search must not stop here.. even for me.. pwede pa mabago ang boto ko, lets be sincere and unbiased sa pag pili ng candidate.. go with what your conscience is telling you.. you are the ones na mggng example for us youth.. sana po makita din namin sa inyo yung dapat naming matutunan.. Godbless po.. 
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hija, kanino ka ba nagtatanong at di nila alam yang slogan na yan? pero wag kang umasa na makikita mo yan katabi ng slogan nila sa mga pader dahil di mo roon makikita.
hindi naman ako nagiimbento ng mga slogan dahil hindi ako mahilig umastang cheerleader. magtananog tanong ka pa hija, baka me mapagtanungan kang taga olongapo.
tutal nasabi mo na rin naman yung free will. tayo ay binigyan ng diyos hindi lang ng free will kundi ng tamang pag-iisip para gamitin ito ng mahusay. ang diyos ayaw nya yung basta na lang tayo sunod ng sunod sa kanya. mas gusto nya yung nagtatanong kasi ibig sabihin nun interesado tayo sa pagmamahal nya, bagkus ay yung blind na taga-sunod lang. kaya nga binigyan nya tayo ng bibliya para pag-aralan.
and yes, let’s not settle for less. let’s find the better and alternative candidates not just this coming election but in every election.
let’s go beyond what the media can provide.
I respect your opinion and I thank you for your blog for making me aware of his flaws. I have been an admirer of Gordon ever since he made big changes in where I live, Cebu (like Malapascua, Bantayan Island and Somilon Island). Yes, Gordon may have his flaws but every candidate has one. But for me, Gordon is the only candidate who has done a lot of things for the whole country. My aunt is a volunteer at Red Cross for 14 years already and as what she says, she has never seen a man so eager to make a change in this country and she has never witness anything bad at Red Cross and I assure you that she is a very observant person and she always sees a negative thing in everyone but not for Gordon. I have researched about all the candidates and especially Gordon and so far, you are the only blog site that isn’t happy about his works. I just want you to know that most of the people that I know that are voting for Gordon is because he is firm and he has helped our country so much, not just Luzon, but also Visayas and Mindanao. And with that he has also helped other countries as well, that’s why Singapore and Thailand have much respect for him. I have read your blog and saw that your only concentrating with most of the cities in Luzon (like Subic, Clark and Olongapo). We need a president who cares about the whole country and has “workable” plans. Before you complain about his rules in Olongapo and where else, make sure that you’ve seen what he has done for the whole country.