Noynoy Aquino’s legislative record
Another barrage of negative ad campaign and lies!
I actually believed that Noynoy Aquino did nothing at the Senate! Oh mon dieu! Pardonnez-moi! Pati ako niloko ko na sarili ko, until one blogfriend sent me a link that would lead me to Jim Paredes site. What would suprise me was a listing of Noynoy Aquino’s Legislative record. All along, I believed my FB friend (who by the way is rooting for Gibo) that indeed, zero accomplishment si Noynoy sa Senate. I cannot believe this!
And so, I copied Jim Paredes entry for everyone to see.
Here it is:
SENATOR BENIGNO “NOYNOY” S. AQUINO III ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN PUBLIC SERVICE
Senator Noynoy Aquino is vigilant in his pursuit of truth, justice and freedom, the fundamental principles that make democracy work in this country that his parents had likewise fought hard to restore. His commitment to preserve, strengthen and continue their legacy is evident in his accomplishments.
I. Positions held
Chairman, Committee on Local Government
Co-chair, Committee on Justice and Human Rights
II. Committee Membership
• Accounts
• Economic Affairs
• Education, Arts and Culture
• Environment and Natural Resources
• Government Corporations and Public Enterprises
• Justice and Human Rights
• National Defense and Security
• Peace, Reunification and Reconciliation
• Public Works
• Trade and Commerce
• Urban Planning, Housing and Development
• Ways and Means
• Youth, Women and Family Relations
III. Senate Bills
Senate Bill No. 1370 – an act granting an annual productivity incentive to all workers in the private sector, establishing
mechanisms for its implementation, and for other purposes
Senate Bill No. 1719 – an act limiting the re-appointment of presidential nominees by-passed by the Commission on Appointments (CA)
Senate Bill No. 1710 – an act banning the re-appointment of a regular member of the Judicial and Bar Council (JBC) who has already served the full term
Senate Bill No. 2035 – an act requiring the regular maintenance and preservation of all public infrastructures, establishing mechanisms for its implementation and for other purposes
Senate Bill No. 2036 – an act increasing the penalties for non-compliance of the prescribed increases and adjustments in the wage rates of workers, amending for the purpose Republic Act No. 6727
Senate Bill 2159 – an act adopting the doctrine of superior responsibility to all actions involving military personnel, members of the Philippine National Police and other civilians involved in law enforcement
Senate Bill 2160 – an act amending Section 4 of RA 9184, otherwise known as the Government Procurement Reform Act to further restrict exemptions to the requirement of public bidding
Senate Bill 2978 – an act amending the DILG Act to further clarify the relationship between local chief executives and their respective local police chiefs
Senate Bill 3121 – the Budget Impoundment Control Act, which seeks to strengthen legislative oversight over executive spending
IV. Senate Resolutions
Senate Resolution No. 190 – investigating the exercise and implementation of the powers of local chief executives under Republic Act 7160 otherwise known as the “Local Government Code of 1991” in relation to Republic Act 6975 known as the “Philippine National Police (PNP) Law” and Republic Act 8551 known as “The PNP Reform and Reorganization Act
of 1998”
Senate Resolution No. 205 – investigating the bomb explosion at the House of Representatives, condemning in the strongest possible terms the recent bombing at the House of Representatives, extending sympathies to the victims and calling on authorities to conduct a swift and thorough investigation into this incident
Senate Resolution No. 229 – directing the appropriate Senate committees to conduct an inquiry, in aid of legislation, on the circumstances leading to the arrest and ‘processing’ of journalists and media personalities after the Manila Peninsula standoff on 29 November 2007
V. Fiscalizer
The responsibilities of a senator go beyond the drafting of legislation or the creation of policies. As a true representative of
the people, Senator Aquino has consistently voiced his concerns on several issues, drawing attention to the anomalies in our current administration.
2009 General Appropriations Act (GAA)
By vigorously examining the General Appropriations Act for 2009 submitted by the Executive, Senator Aquino was able to propose key amendments to the 2009 GAA that seek to tighten congressional oversight on the executive’s use of public funds.
Champion of Human Rights and People’s Participation At the heart of all legislative and policy-making initiatives is the development and welfare of the people. Senator Aquino has sought the proper relocation of informal settlers and the delineation of authority of parties involved in demolitions such as the MMDA. The bill amending the UDHA is currently underway.
Through his privilege speeches, Senator Aquino has drawn attention to the plight of desaparecidos and victims of extra-judicial killings. He introduced substantial amendments to the Cooperative Code to make it more responsive to the needs of the marginalized sector for which the code was enacted. They are meant to strengthen the cooperative movement by providing for transparent measures for members and officers of cooperatives.
He is also part of the bicameral debates on the Anti-Torture Act.
Accountability to the People
Senator Aquino actively participated in the hearings that investigated a number of reported scandals involving the alleged misuse of public funds, such as the ZTE-NBN deal, the Euro Generals and the Fertilizer Fund scam. These hearings brought to light the need for increased transparency and accountability in the disbursal of taxpayers’ money.
Integrity of the Senate
The series of scandals that stain the reputation of our government has also challenged the Senate of the Philippines as an institution. The recent attempts to amend the Constitution, for instance, have compelled our Senators, including Senator Aquino, to firmly assert their defiant stand on this issue.
Energy Sector
Senator Aquino has been vigilant in the hearings regarding the sale of TRANSCO and PNOC-EDC. Much of his time and energy was spent on the EPIRA and TRANSCO amendments, questioning the sale of revenue-generating assets prior to the privatization of key government corporations. Senator Aquino sought clarification as to whether the sales of these assets were part of a long-term energy development plan or not to ensure that the long-term impact of losing these assets have been considered prior to their sales.
National Integrity
Senator Aquino voted “NO” to the controversial JPEPA because he believed that the Filipino people deserved a better negotiated and mutually beneficial treaty.
VI. Institution builder
Last but not least, Senator Aquino has dedicated his life in public service to strengthening our democratic institutions. Principal among these is his commitment to a genuine party system in the Philippines, as reflected in his membership in and strong commitment to the Liberal Party.
• Executive Vice President, December 18, 2007 to present
• Vice Chairman, March 17, 2006 to December 17, 2007
• Secretary General, 2004 to March 16, 2006
• Vice-Pres. for Luzon, 2002-2004
• Secretary General, 1999-2002
• Chairman of the Board, Central Luzon Congressional Caucus
VII. Accomplishments as three-term member of the House of
Representatives:
A. Positions held
Deputy Speaker, 13th Congress
B. Committee Membership
13th Congress
• Banks & Financial Intermediaries
• Energy
• Export Promotion
• Public Order & Safety
12th Congress
• Civil, Political & Human Rights
• Good Government
• Inter-Parliamentary Relations & Diplomacy
• Public Order & Security
11th Congress
• Agriculture
• Appropriations
• Banks & Financial Intermediaries
• Civil, Political & Human Rights (Vice-Chairman)
• Natural Resources
• Peoples’ Participation
• Public Order & Security
• Suffrage and Electoral Reforms
• Trade & Industry
• Transportation & Communications
C. Priority Bills
• House Bill No. 4251 – granting annual productivity incentives to all workers in the private sector
• House Bill No. 4397 – strengthening the regulatory power of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) to effectively enforce consumer laws
• House Bill No. 4252 – increasing the penalties for non-compliance of the prescribed increases and adjustments in the wage rates of workers
• House Bill No. 3616 – extending the reglementary period for the educational qualification for PNP members
• House Bill No. 1842 – providing for the codification of criminal laws
D. Resolutions
• House Resolution No. 65 – inquiry in aid of legislation into the policies and processes of the Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC) in granting rate increases to electric utilities
• House Resolution No. 788 – creating a select Congressional Oversight Committee on intelligence funds to check and study the use of intelligence funds by government agencies to ensure that funds allocated therefore are utilized for the purpose they are intended
E. Other legislation
a. Introduced an amendment in the General Appropriations Act requiring public bidding in the purchase of petroleum, oil and lubricant products for the Department of National Defense
Source: http://celdrantours.blogspot.com/2009/09/this-is-what-noynoy-has-done.html
Thanks to Carlos Celdran.
Source: http://haringliwanag.pansitan.net/?p=809
Thanks to Jim Paredes.
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SNAPSHOTS OF PROPOSED LEGISLATIONS, Oct 2005
Aquino Vs Villar
I was wondering what the man of destiny and the survey superstar were doing in October 2005 in terms of their proposed legislation.
Fortunately, the Philippine Business website operated by the Makati Business Club kept a record.
And this is what I culled from the site.
AGRICULTURE
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 604 Genetically Engineered Food Right to Know Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 703 Foot and Mouth Disease Eradication Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 704 Rice Safety Net Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 705 Bio-Organic Farming Promotion Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 706 Creating a Coffee Research, Development and Extension Center at the Cavite State University in Indang, Cavite 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
BANKING
AQUINO
HB 2101 Exempting government officials and employees from the prohibition against disclosure of or inquiry into deposits with any banking institution 8/4/2004 Rep. Agapito A. Aquino Pending in Committee
VILLAR
- NONE
DEMOGRAPHICS
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 562 Philippine Science Centrum Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 600 Requiring all cigarette and cigar manufacturers and distributors to scientifically and truthfully print, on each box or pack of cigars that they manufacture, distribute or sell, the levels of nicotine, tar and carbon monoside that could be inhaled in smoking a stick of cigar or cigarettes 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 604 Genetically Engineered Food Right to Know Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 654 Protection of Minors from Vices Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
ENVIRONMENT
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 288 Environment Friendly Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 295 Providing for the installation of anti-pollution devices as pre-requisite to the registration and issuance of licenses and license plate numbers to vehicles newly registered 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 657 Establishing Forest Management, utilization, conservation and preservation centers in provinces inhabited predominantly by members of indigenous communities and upland families 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 714 Shore Protection Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 717 Ship Pollution Prevention Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 729 Oil Pollution Compensation Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 734 Community Environmental Information Program Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
GOVERNANCE
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 735 Anti-Terrorism Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 789 The Judicial Right To Know Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
PUBLIC FINANCE
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 510 Fixing the Debt Stock of the Republic of the Philippines 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
TRANSPORTATION
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR
SB 651 Airline Passenger Fairness Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
UTILITIES
AQUINO
- NONE
VILLAR -
SB 516 The Power Rebate Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 597 Safe Drinking Water Act of 2004 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
SB 598 Safe Bottle Water Act 6/30/2004 Sen. Manuel B. Villar Jr. Pending in Committee
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AHA! we are finally learning something from you BongV hehehe! Sa hinaba haba nang usapan naten dito lang pla lalabas hehehe!
Reinz:
Does that mean I am voting for Villar?
That’s a logical fallacy named nonsequitur, which am sure was taken up in undergrad (if not grad school).
makes sense! BongV….BongVillar bwahahahahahaah
Hahaha!
Ano na nga ang logical fallacy?
Perla.
Not Villar.
Ah ok. No contest.
Hahaha
The Fish is caught in the mouth!!!
Make sense! The reason behind all of this mudslinging against Noynoy….
1. Crispin Remulla made a claim of Hacienda Luisita’s overpricing,
2. Satur Ocampo, Liza Maza and Teddy Casino now leans toward villar because Villar accepts their offer for the senatorial slate. Consequently, they are now attacking Noynoy because the LP doesnt want to accomodate them for obvious reasons.
3. and now they are ganging up on Noynoy— and these people who are belabering about Traponism here in Barrio are leaning to the left…
hahahaha Make sense
Magkano binayad sa inyo? Where is the principle you are fighting for? Eh sa trapo din naman pala mga bagsak nyo hahahaha
bluep,
correction. si perla ang candidate nya. hehehe
sasakalin ko tong si bong e, pinahirapan pako manghula,inabot ako ng alas 3 ng umaga? kala ko pa naman isa sa mga manok ko, di pala, talagang sa andok na direcho nung mga manok kot hindi sa malakaniang,litsi.
hahaha at least this was fun! si benigno na lang at si botomoto ang susunod hahaha!
Whoooha! nahuli mo Reyna! talagang bilib na ako sa iyo! nabingwit mo agad sa bunganga!
ayan naman pala.. parang fisherman naman pala si reynz..
Non sequitur (Latin for “it does not follow”), in formal logic, is an argument in which its conclusion does not follow from its premises.
In a non sequitur, the conclusion can be either true or false, but the argument is fallacious because there is a disconnection between the premise and the conclusion.
In this case, Comparing Noynoy and Villar’s legislative record does not automatically translate to an endorsement of Villar. it is a logical fallacy called nonsequitur.
Moreover, I am more impressed with proven ability:
* recently won the Manuel L. Quezon Award in recognition of his exemplary achievements as a Civil Society leader in the fields of Environmental Advocacy, Global Economic and Financial Management and Peace. Given on 21 August 2009.
* won the Alternative Nobel Prize in 2003 “…for his outstanding efforts in educating civil society about the effects of corporate globalisation, and how alternatives to it can be implemented.”
* The Global 500 Roll of Honour of the United Nations Environment Programme, the UNEP’s highest international award for environmental achievement, awarded in 1994.
* awarded The Outstanding Filipino award in the field of agriculture in 1994.
* conferred the Fr. William F. Masterson S.J. Award by the academic institution for his outstanding work as an agriculturist and of his invaluable contribution towards sustainable and environment-friendly agriculture in 1995
i’m sure bongv
, we can go back to perla.
ngek ngek mo whatever happens NOYNOY buong pamilya ko kahit taga-Las Pinas pa ako, dami nya tinatago dito no!!!
Kapal mukha Remulla porke nakapag-asawa ng Aguilar pamilya nya. Mga Aguilar-Tobias dito Las Pinas Land graber.
Legislative track record, Mr. Reynz? Just recall what I said to you in a previous comment:
Trouble with Pinoys is that we seem to be culturally-predisposed to take a retrospective approach to things rather than to regard challenges with a prospective approach.
And Noynoy embodies that culture of fixation on the past.
You also might want to check out the same kind of evaluation I made on Jim Paredes’s endorsement of Noynoy here. I also noted in that article how:
There’s also the matter of Noynoy’s use of the word “fiscaliser”. What’s up with that? Ben Kritz sheds some light on Noynoy’s use of that word:
Lots of URL’s in this comment, mate. Hope it makes it through your moderation filters, because it’s all relevant to your take on things.
still not good Benigno?
you seem to have missed the point. the point, i have ran across several statements in most of phrases and comments that noynoy has no accomplishments. this list completely debunks the lies being splashed. it’s as simple as that.
Reinz:
There are accomplishments that are trivial.. and there are accomplishments that are exemplary and substantial.
Next step is to use the coconut and single out which one has trivial.. and which one has exemplary and substantial accomplishments.
For short, read the substance (or lack thereof)
Funny. It’s not even comedy.
So, yung unang charges was that: Noynoy has no senate accomplishments.
Nung nakita ko mga accomplishments at pinasta…
ahhh… chuwarewap.
I am reminded of Loren. Hirap ligawan.
You really think makikipagtagizan ako sayo nang legislative substance nung accomplishments ni Noynoy Aquino when you’re goal is to simply attack?
Make me laugh. Nabuburo na ako sa usapan naten.
Seriously.
reynz:
What interests me is not just the quantity of the legislation but the nature of the legislation proposed – something that’s not plain jane vanilla budget line item insertions or renaming a street for that matter.
I was looking for something different – something that shows insightful thinking than just the usual “pwede na” legislation.
in my book, plain jane vanilla legislation is not an accomplishment.
Mr. Reynz: that is, of course, if you consider doing one’s job an “accomplishment”. Legislators’ job is to legislate. This is merely evidence that Noynoy did his job as legislator.
The question is this:
What differentiates him from other legislators that also do their jobs as legislators?
It is, indeed, simple, Mr. Reynz. Really.
Ulitin ko na lang sinabi ko benigno above:
Funny. It’s not even comedy.
So, yung unang charges was that: Noynoy has no senate accomplishments.
Nung nakita ko mga accomplishments at pinasta…
ahhh… chuwarewap.
I am reminded of Loren. Hirap ligawan.
You really think makikipagtagizan ako sayo nang legislative substance nung accomplishments ni Noynoy Aquino when you’re goal is to simply attack?
Make me laugh. Nabuburo na ako sa usapan naten.
Seriously.
El capitana:
What interests me is not just the quantity of the legislation but the nature of the legislation proposed – something that’s not plain jane vanilla budget line item insertions or renaming a street for that matter.
I was looking for something different – something that shows insightful thinking than just the usual “pwede na” legislation.
Reynz,
these guys you are chatting with are activists.
read between the lines…
hmnnn….
Dude, in case you haven’t noticed yet, the goal here is, indeed, to “attack”. What you fail to understand, Mr. Reynz is the nature of said attack. There is no smear campaign here as most of the challenges from myself and from what I interpret in BongV’s and this guy “botomoto’s” comments seem to be legitimate queries into the nature of your endorsement of Noynoy. Step back from what you perceive to be a smear campaign and focus on the content of what is being queried of you. If you perceive it as an “attack”, then dude, put up your dukes and stop whining about this being all about people being out to get you and your manok.
When you get out there to assert your endorsement of a candidate, you should be prepared to defend that assertion against said “attacks”.
I suggest you get used to this, Mr. Reynz. The more information we come across about Noynoy, the closer the scrutiny gets, and the higher the bar of our standards of evaluation becomes.
Don’t think that providing a “legislative trackrecord” ends the discussion. On the contrary, it merely broadens and deepends the “debate”. And we all want to see a bit more depth in the way Pinoys apply democracy, don’t we?
So if and when Noynoy actually publishes his platform (some of his “supporters” say it will happen in February 2010), expect the debate to become more interesting, more focused, and more demanding of the application of intellectual faculties.
You can see now why politicians shy away from being more upfront about the detail (if there is any to begin with) about how they plan to govern. It is because it will result in a commitment to something more precise than those platitudes that ordinary schmoes tend to latch on to.
Deal with it.
Perhaps the reason we have all these “smear campaigns” is because Noynoy has not provided anything to work with (thus making him vulnerable to such attacks).
Maburo ka man o matawa ka sa usapan is your prerogative (it’s your blog, as you are wont to assert ad infinitum) — nobody’s stopping you from withdrawing into that state, dude. Whether you choose to respond to more scrutiny/evaluation that way or choose to step up and raise the bar in the way you address the increased scrutiny/evaluation is up to you. But in my opinion you do more justice to your manok if you opt for the latter.
Assert? When I thought Noynoy has no Senate accomplishments which I have just debunked when I found this article? I’m sure you’re the last person in the world to tell people that the charges that Noynoy has no Senate accomplishment is a lie. Will you tell them that? I would guess not.
So in other words, that I should stop endorsing Noynoy and stop blogging him to get away from your intelligent scrutiny? And if I don’t stop, you and your comrades won’t stop? Wow Benigno. Remember, you have just labeled me stupid.
and what’s interesting is that although i know now that Villar is it for BongV, you won’t tell us your candidate for fear of the same thing? I wonder who can’t take criticism benigno. ~hohum~
Did I, Mr Reynz?
Show me where exactly, plez.
If I recall right, I merely defined “stupid”.
Perhaps you were a bit too quick to apply said definition to some people here.
yes mr. benigno, in fact you we’re emphatic about calling all noynoy supporters as stupid. and you should be happy i did not delete that comment.
As the character played by that fine product of Hollywood uttered in the movie Jerry Mcguire (tama ba spelling?):
Help me, help you, Mr. Reynz.
Again, you emphasise the “power” you wield to delete comments in your blog. You and your co-admins here have emphasised — and invoked — that power often enough for us here to be pretty much constantly aware of the risk we take in using “offensive” words like “stupid”, bossing. So, dude, get over that “power” and focus more on what is being discussed here.
Perhaps instead of using the word “stupid” we shall use the term intellectually challenged. Does that suit your polite sensibilities a bit more.
So then let us replace the text string “stupid” with the above term — “intellectually-challenged” — in that comment I cited and see if its essence is changed, specifically this excerpt:
I (personally) call Noynoy and his supporters [intellectually-challenged] because to me they fail to exhibit any evidence of intelligence (in both the way the[y] pitch Noynoy’s message — whatever that may be — and in the way they defend [against] his attackers). And last I checked, an inability to exhibit intelligence is a symptom of [intellectually-challenged]ity. If we see Noynoy as possessing the “courage” to envision a different Philippines in the future, perhaps that courage might begin with acknowledging how [intellectually-challenged] he presumes Filipino voters to be by delivering to them such a vacuous and limp-d1cked campaign. On the part of the Filipino voter, perhaps it is time that we for our part become courageous enough to DEMAND MORE INTELLIGENCE from our politicians.
So now, Mr. Reynz, may I ask which part of the above do you consider to be an unfair description of Noynoy and his supporters?
yes, mr. benigno, i won’t hesitate to invoke that power, the little that i have no matter how much taunting and continous insult from you, although i still have not demonstrated it.
intellectually challenged, stupid, they’re all the same shit benigno. this is the very reason why i don’t go to FV because of the tendency of you people to always bring the discussion on name calling and all that.
in the last discussion where you call all noynoy supporters stupid, it’s always been that way and i will repeat it again – if we don’t agree with your opinion. too much of a challenge for us to agree with you that’s why you go through all these?
and you will never get that intellectual discussion from me mr. benigno because i don’t have the level of intelligence that you have. happy? now you could go blog about it, quote reyna. she’s un-intelligent. i just happen to believe that noynoy is my leader. not by gutter. but for something that he represents. cool?
Hey Reyna, di ba si Benigno ang nag sabi sa iyo na inu-uto ka lang ng mga reader mo? at ikinumpara ka pa sa isang buteteng hari na inuto ng nag pre-pretend na magagaling na mananahi? at ikinumpara nya ang sarili nya sa batang musmus na nag sasabi ng totoo? Well, baka ganito ang gusto nyang ipalabas ngayon! ang tanong ko at siguro’y ng iba pang bumabasa, bakit galit na galit sila sa mga ipi-no-post mo dito sa Barrio? hindi pa ba sila makuntento at binibigyan sila ng Kapitana ng space to say what ever they want? Be fair naman po tayo! hindi campaign manager ni Noynoy si Reynz, blogger lang sya na naniniwala sa kakayahan ni Noynoy! mahirap bang intindihin yun? Hello!!! hindi naman stupido ang mga bumabasa dito sa Barrio para hindi maintindihan kung ano ang gusto mong ipalabas! you hate the Guts of Reyna, dahil kahit anong atake nyo sa kanya nakatayo pa rin sya! Hey Reyna, tandaan mo ‘wag mong dibdibin masyado ang pang-aasar nyan! masisira lang ang beauty mo! walang mangyayari sa yo dyan sa pakikipag debate ng walang saysay! you have proven to them na isa kang matatag na sundalo….na kahit lugay lugay na ay pilit na bumabangon! saludo ako sa iyo! We want to read more interesting topics! please move on……
yes, the emperor. hahaha so you recalled that entry. benigno love to ridicule and insult me. i don’t know what’s with this guy. eternal lover or eternal hater. ewan ko. haha
Pakibigyan na lang ng diazepam sina Benigno at BongV para makatulog na. LOL.
Nadedepress pati pag di nanalo ang chickens nila sa debateng barrio. Har!
See this peeps!
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/176837/poll-topping-noynoy-now-a-victim-of-character-assassination
I saw this coming too Silver. Totoo ang sinasabi nung balita, lahat gagawin ng mga kalaban para sirain si Noynoy.
Nothing is new to Philippine politics. Mud-slinging at its finest! ~LOL~
what do you think happens to governance when you vote for an incompetent underdog.
grow up naman
talagang forever pushing hehehe. unfortunately, we do not see noynoy as incompetent.
you can vote for an incompetent underdog and no one’s stopping you. just remember your choice when governance tanks.
grow up naman peepz
we’re so grown up Bong to choose over whose got unquestionable integrity and character and definitely not Villar with his C5 baggage even if his self-made millionaire story is one for the books.
Perhaps you should give yourself a bit more credit than that, Mr. Reynz. I don’t think you would have gotten to where you are now if you hadn’t possessed nor applied that intelligence that you are now telling me you don’t posses. I hope though that you are not just saying that to demonstrate some kind of solidarity with the people who surround you here.
But then if you feel that way about yourself, there’s really not much I can do.
thank u benigno
~~putting on my emperor’s clothes~
I hope though that you are not just saying that to demonstrate some kind of solidarity with the people who surround you here.
GANOON?!
Hoy bluep heksemted ako ha, Pilipino pa rin aketch noh! Hmp, Kung may chance lang ba akong makapag trabaho sa Pinas at mapag aral mga kapatid ko eh zhokhet kaya naman ako magtitiis na malayo sa kanila noh? Eh kaso sa dami ng inaplayan kong mga posisyon dyan, ala namang tumanggap sa akin kasi reserved na lahat sa mga kamag anak ng mga may kakilala sa itaas! Buti pa nga yu es ob ey, binigyan ako ng pagkakataon eh… Saka Ow Ep Dabalyu ako ano, kahit malayo sa bayang magiliw mas nakakatulong pa ako thru my remittances, o pero ibang topic na naman yan.
Dun sa mga supporter ni Villar, bahala na kayo sa inyong kandidato. Basta ako after nag back out si Mar, Noynoy na yung next choice ko.
Sa lone supporter naman ni Perlas dito, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.. are you serious? Knowz mo naman siguro na hindi sapat ang marubdob na hangaring makapagsilbi para manalo bilang presidente davah? Eh kung yan lang ang kailangan antagal ko na sigurong presidente, wahhehehehe!
Ganyan talaga pag maraming pera..pwede magbigay ng bahay sa mga contestants ng WOWOWEE..pwede magpa-uwi ng mga OFWs..pwede magbayad for character assassination..isip ko lang..masarap siguro mag-work sa kanila..lahat pwede eh..lahat doble..doble ang presyo ng C5..ibig kaya sabihin doble din sila magpa-sweldo? ibig sabihin, babawiin lahat ng nagastos sa mga tao..doble-doble..at baka maging triple pa..kakatakot! ang mas nakakatakot eh yung mga taong sinasabing magagagaling at maraming accomplishments..kung talagang magagagaling sila at me pagmamahal sa bayan, bakit nakuha nilang palampasin lahat ng kabulastagan ng administrasyon ng sila pa ang pinuno ng senado..basta ako, ang iboboto ko si NOYNOY!!! bakit pa, pakialam nila..ang boto ko ay boto ko..desisyon ko ito..pangangatawanan ko..
UPDATE:
EDU MANZANO IS RUNNING AS THE VP CHOICE OF GIBO TEODORO UNDER LAKAS-KAMPI-CMD – Primetime news headline…
@Reynz,
meron ata sa youtube. search mo “nick perlas probe profiles”
dispalinghado nga ba o you’re just deleting the comments? kasi kayo nakakapasok.
in case natatanggap niyo nga ito. mali pa rin ang stand niyo sa winnability.
pag si noynoy nawala ang winnability niya and we follow your reasoning then kawawa naman siya iwanan niyo rin pala.
@Botomoto, napupunta sa spam tol yung mga comments natin, anyhow papatinganan namin sa admin. sofar 3 sa comments mo narecover ko. Sensya na it was not on purpose. as you can see even the order of the comments are disorganized, minsan napunta sa taas, minsan dito sa baba. ganito talaga minsan ang plugin lalo na at nag upgrade ang wordpress, tapos yung plugin hindi pa updated.
anyhow back to winnability,
medyo mahirap i objectify tol tanong mo kasi like i said it only applies to me. Siguro yung iba, iba ang standard nila sa winnability pero personally, sa akin ha,
winnability kinokonsider ko yung kilala ba sya, may credibility ba sya para magustuhan ng tao, mga tipong ganun. of course sa akin ang winability comes after nung mga primary standards ko which is integrity, leadership credibility etc.
now hindi pwede icontradict yung way o paraan ng standard ko kasi nga saakin yun. maaring mali sa iba maari naman na appplicable.
yung question mo na iiwanan ko ba si noy dahil nag plummet ang survey, dyan papasok yung conviction…
of course sa akin hindi. ewan ko sa iba.
bluepanjeet,
fair enough. conviction is of course a personal thing. i actually expected such an answer from you.
“winability comes after nung mga primary standards ko”
that’s the point exactly. “winnability” is the least important factor if not a non-factor.
valid and good question naman talaga to botomoto.
now, say nag-plummet nga talaga ang rankings ni Noynoy, meaning hindi na saleable ang image nya.
i’d probably investigate and understand why people are not buying what he represents and if i find a common ground to agree with the majority, quite possible na hindi ko rin iboto dahil babalikan ko ang winnability factors nung mga kalaban. sino sa mga kalaban ang closest sa mga metrics ko for a leader?
that’s my miss universe opinion botomoto
sidenote sa mga admin:
nag-loloko ata ang comments plugin here. naloloka ako kung saan napupunta ang mga comments ko.
me too.
Now that’s the irony of freewill. Remember, we are not choosing a candidate in terms of loyalty or friendship. We are choosing because of several standards on our subjective list. We do not have any emotional attachment to a candidate. therefore, the argument na “kawawa si noynoy iiwanan nyo rin pala” is reserved for his friends and family and not on the voting public like us.
We are voting for a leader and not a friend. If ang basis lang sa pagboto eh “awa” now that is the right of every voter. wala tayo magagawa dun. But to answer in a very personal way, that does not apply to me. isa pa di naman kami close ni noynoy at siguro naman pag di ko sya binoto eh wala sya paki kasi di naman nya ako kilala. And im not voting for him because of the premise of awa o loyalty. Im voting for him because of my personal standards.
i saw reinz’s comment but it has vanished as well.
TO COMMENTERS HERE:
I could not find the problem kung bakit labo-labo ang position nang comments here which should have been nested na pwedeng 5 succession.
And when you leave a comment, you think you lost it, baka andun lang sa taas.
Sorry from La Kapitana.
Putang ama… not to convince but to discuss… your face.
Oh, so that’s why you guys are so persistent in publishing ‘discussions’, huh?
Sakit sa pwet, reinz! =__=
Great job, Reynz — maraming salamat!
Great job, Reynz — salamat!
haha ah ganun ba? I stand corrected.
Good For him. Perlas is a good alternative candidate. Actually I also like him. If Noy did not run, he would probably be my choice as well.
Tigilan na lang ang mud slinging kay noynoy. Napapagkamalan tuloy na bayaran sila ni Villar LOl
no correction again. villar pala. hahahaha spin a wheel mo na lang kung sino kandidato nya hehe basta makes sense yong analysis mo dun sa taas
hahaha maalin. the Point is, resorting to dirty tactics only dilutes the promotion of your candidate. The more you attack an underdog, the more it will be voted! —remember the case of Cory? or Erap perhaps?
yup.. they voted for Erap or Cory… and they had an incompetent government… leading to more hardship on their part.. suckers for punishment engaged in wholesale foot in mouth disease
sorry blue, ginugulo lang kita sa tactics ni bongv hehehe nabuko tuloy hehehe
Ironic since the incompetent government of Cory that you are ridiculing is the same Government that gave you the freedom to speak freely which you are now enjoying today. LOL The same freedom that the majority of Filipinos fought for in edsa 86 which you consider stupid and immature. LOl
Very Ironic indeed.
everyone knows who was cory’s problems during her admin, erap was THE incompetent worse corrupt but that’s another days discussion, yet no one can come close to the unquestionable integrity and character of Cory Aquino.
BTW, talking about incompetency.. isn’t belaboring without action is also incompetence? You want change in the Philippines yet your asses are there in the US and Australia enjoying a comfortable life instead of putting your words into action by direct involvement of what you are excessively saying. Umuwi muna kayo dito at tikman ang paghihirap namin bago kayo ngumawa LOL
@korek bluep, ang layo-layo ng pinanggagalingan ng kahol nila! i doubt it kung mga pinoy pa yang mga yan.
@Leo – sa palagay ko hindi na kasi they already generalized most pinoys as stupid — take note of their website: ANTIPINOY.
Hoy bluep heksemted ako ha, Pilipino pa rin aketch noh! Hmp, Kung may chance lang ba akong makapag trabaho sa Pinas at mapag aral mga kapatid ko eh zhokhet kaya naman ako magtitiis na malayo sa kanila noh? Eh kaso sa dami ng inaplayan kong mga posisyon dyan, ala namang tumanggap sa akin kasi reserved na lahat sa mga kamag anak ng mga may kakilala sa itaas! Buti pa nga yu es ob ey, binigyan ako ng pagkakataon eh… Saka Ow Ep Dabalyu ako ano, kahit malayo sa bayang magiliw mas nakakatulong pa ako thru my remittances, o pero ibang topic na naman yan.
Dun sa mga supporter ni Villar, bahala na kayo sa inyong kandidato. Basta ako after nag back out si Mar, Noynoy na yung next choice ko.
Sa lone supporter naman ni Perlas dito, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA.. are you serious? Knowz mo naman siguro na hindi sapat ang marubdob na hangaring makapagsilbi para manalo bilang presidente davah? Eh kung yan lang ang kailangan antagal ko na sigurong presidente, wahhehehehe!
@Kutz, hexempted naman talaga kayo hahaha. What I mean is, let’s us just hope for the best, promote other’s right of free choice instead of mudslinging.
Pero honestly Kutz, nanood ako ng Probe Profiles ni Perlas and kahit papano na impress ako sa kanya. Hindi ko lang sigurado if mananalo talaga sya kasi una wala sya makinarya, ikalawa hindi naman sya kilala unlike nina Kiko, chiz at Noli na kahit independent eh hindi na mahirap kasi kilala na sila ng tao, ikatlo, umaasa sya sa 24 million internet users. hindi naman lahat ng internet users ay registered voters. Ikaapat, till now di pa aprubado yung kaniyang partido sa comelec. May possibility pa na ideklara sya na nuisance.
Though magaling sya, and somehow I like what I heard from him pero unrealistic pa rin goal nya na manalo. Sana nag senator na lang muna sya kasi di talaga sya kilala.
hehehe winnability daw eh hindi dapat part nang calculative strategy dahil its also traponess yan ang position ni botomoto heheh
bluepanjeet,
peace and good tidings to you.
tama ka dapat nga sana tumakbo muna siya before for the senate or some other position. considering the prevailing political system, there really is a big chance he will be declared a nuisance. jc de los reyes might also suffer the same fate.
i think we can agree perlas has already made a statement against the traditional political approach by simply joining the fray.
pa share nga nung link nang Perlas na yan. di ako maka-relate.
anyway, eto lang masasabi ko kaya medyo disappointed ako’t di tinuloy ni Chiz yong candidacy nya dahil kahit hindi sya manalo, he’s in good running sa next elections instead na parang sinira nya sarili nya.
kaya kung ako si Perlas, what’s wrong with running for Senate muna para he’d be known at makapag form sya nang following. sabi ko naman senyo social climbing lang yan eh hahaha
@Botomoto,
si JCDR yung isa pa sa sinasabi ko kay reynz na alternative candidate.
ganito yun botomoto, let me explain in my own point of view…
Perlas, JCDR and Noy o isama na natin si chiz, have the same qualkity,credibility and soon siguro platform
pero syempre pag boboto ako pipiliin ko na ay yung mananalo. kasi bakit ko sasayangin ang boto ko sa alam ko na di mananalo eh di dun na ako sa mananalo na may taglay din naman qualities nung mga di mananalo.
yun yung sinasabi ni reynz na winnability. Boboto din lang eh di dun sa mananalo na na may same credibility at integrity as perlas and JCDR.
@Reynz,
meron ata sa youtube. search mo “nick perlas probe profiles”
PS. dispalinghado na itong threaded plugin natin haha nawawala ang mga comments at kung saan saan napupunta, patatlo na ito submit ko
sakto blue. sakto. dahil yong nga ang risk na pag di mo pinansin ang winnability factor, eh baka mas sugapang unggoy ang pumasok.
hindi pwedeng alisin ang winnability factor kahit na sabihin pang traponess sya.
bluepanjeet,
but how do you know that a candidate has winnability? as far as i know sa surveys and trending di ba?
bluepanjeet,
dispalinghado nga siguro ang plugin
paulit ulit na rin pagcomment ko di ata pumapasok.
anyway, i raise the question again. despite your present conviction, will you take back your support from noynoy if ever for some reason his survey ranking plummets?
i hope you’d answer kasi this directly ties in to this winnability issue.
@Reynz – kasi sayang talaga ang boto. I mean, although hindi masasayang in a sense na you have used your right to vote. But in the economy of voting, sayang sya kasi baka yung boto mo na ibibigay kay perlas eh makakadagdag pa dun sa tao na alm mo na ipagpapatuloy din yung mga hangarini ni perlas at JCDR. I think one good example was in 1986. kaya nila pinilit si Doy na mag VP na lang kasi mahahati ang boto nila ni cory. sa america they have this same principle kaya nga bipartisan ang laban. dalawa lang ang naglalaban kasi para majority ng votes ang mananalo. kaya kung sino yung may qualifications + winnability eh sya pinipili — kaya nga si obama pinili ng democrats because of that factor.
sakto blue. sakto. dahil yong nga ang risk na pag di mo pinansin ang winnability factor, eh baka mas sugapang unggoy ang pumasok.
hindi pwedeng alisin ang winnability factor kahit na sabihin pang traponess sya.
@Botomoto, napupunta sa spam tol yung mga comments natin, anyhow papatinganan namin sa admin. sofar 3 sa comments mo narecover ko. Sensya na it was not on purpose. as you can see even the order of the comments are disorganized, minsan napunta sa taas, minsan dito sa baba. ganito talaga minsan ang plugin lalo na at nag upgrade ang wordpress, tapos yung plugin hindi pa updated.
anyhow back to winnability,
medyo mahirap i objectify tol tanong mo kasi like i said it only applies to me. Siguro yung iba, iba ang standard nila sa winnability pero personally, sa akin ha,
winnability kinokonsider ko yung kilala ba sya, may credibility ba sya para magustuhan ng tao, mga tipong ganun. of course sa akin ang winability comes after nung mga primary standards ko which is integrity, leadership credibility etc.
now hindi pwede icontradict yung way o paraan ng standard ko kasi nga sa akin yun. maaring mali sa iba yun, maari din naman na appplicable sa iba yun.
yung question mo na iiwanan ko ba si noy dahil nag plummet ang survey, dyan papasok yung conviction…
of course sa akin hindi. ewan ko sa iba.
dito na papasok yung subjectivity of standards. we have different standards and understanding of winnability. we cannot box it or put it on a vacuum.
ang pagboto naman kasi tol eh hindi exact science o exact discipline. wala tayo standard o protocol na sinusunod sa pagpili ng kandidato except to vote who we want according to our conscience.
kaya you cannot say mali ang stand namin o tama stand mo kasi it boils down to the preference. depende sa tao.
enough with winnability. LOL I already explained my piece. baka humaba pa to. basta yun na yun.
pag si gloria ang tinanong mo, winnability is garci skills.
winnability is also, if you are able to cut accross a broad spectrum. alam na naten yon. at bakit si noynoy is able to do that? dahil sa unquestionable integrity at character nila. oo, sasabihin na naman ni benigno na we are choosing noynoy because of cory and ninoy.
ignore that part that wasn’t exactly what i wanted to say. in the haste of typing nahuli ang thought. tao lang. what i actually wanted to say was simply “may problem pa rin sa winnability issue.”
in any case, your reply above already answers the question.
Now that’s the irony of freewill. Remember, we are not choosing a candidate in terms of loyalty or friendship. We are choosing because of several standards on our subjective list. We do not have any emotional attachment to a candidate. therefore, the argument na “kawawa si noynoy iiwanan nyo rin pala” is reserved for his friends and family and not on the voting public like us.
We are voting for a leader and not a friend. If ang basis lang sa pagboto eh “awa” now that is the right of every voter. wala tayo magagawa dun. But to answer in a very personal way, that does not apply to me. isa pa di naman kami close ni noynoy at siguro naman pag di ko sya binoto eh wala sya paki kasi di naman nya ako kilala. And im not voting for him because of the premise of awa o loyalty. Im voting for him because of my personal standards.
this I can agree with you. gusto ko sana mag explain tol ng mahaba pero tinatamad ako. Pero medyo may tama ka dun.
kasi sa point ko naman, if winnability lang ang titingnan eh may problema talaga. sa akin to ha. ewan ko sa iba.
halimbawa, if Willie Revillame will run for VP, eh mananalo talaga yan kasi may winnability factor yan. Yan ang problema kung winability lang ang titinganan talaga.
Pero sa basa ko sa arguments nyo ni reynz, parang ang sinasabi ni reynz, at nabangit ko na ata sa taas, na winnability comes after the credibility, leadership standard. though it is problematic at some point, yet it is still a factor worth considering.
halimbawa na lang sa poker, you cannot lay down a straight ace if your opponent’s card is a straight flush. therefore hahanap ka ng mas “winnable” na combination ng baraha para manalo ka.
of course im talking about poker and its far from voting o election pero somehow, analogous ang principle nila.
Kaya ergo, in order to make winnability valid in one’s standard, it should be preceded first by scrutinizing the candidate in terms of credinbility, intergrity, leadership etc… without this, winnability is just winnability. no value except winnability.
yan ay sa akin lang, ewan ko sa iba
Ironic since the incompetent government of Cory that you are ridiculing is the same Government that gave you the freedom to speak freely which you are now enjoying today. LOL The same freedom that the majority of Filipinos fought for in edsa 86 which you consider stupid and immature. LOl
i don’t see “unquestionable integrity” as it relates to noynoy’s stance on hacienda luisita – and the bigger issue of land reform.
integrity demands he come out and make a categorical statement and make an accounting. he has not done that. therefore, to say noynoy has “unquestionable integrity” is highly questionable.
Pero sa basa ko sa arguments nyo ni reynz, parang ang sinasabi ni reynz, at nabangit ko na ata sa taas, na winnability comes after the credibility, leadership standard. though it is problematic at some point, yet it is still a factor worth considering.
4% bongv. how much can he say or do? hindi kagagawan ni noynoy ang hacienda luisita. yan na nga ang sinasabi ko na anti-aquino’s will always frame the issue as if sya WAS the culprit and would always push the issue dahil alam NATING lahat na posibleng albatross nya yan nyahaha
si willie? ico-compare mo ki noynoy? hahaha pwede ba.
noynoy has unquestionable integrity and character na wala sa kanila. yan ang factor that is coming accross sa masa kaya nakikita mo na 60% and ratings nya.
leadership? andun nakalista sa achievements.
okay, now you are talking about standards – sounds like an improvement over gut feel. what are these standards exactly?
in the case of reinz – in a previous thread his standards was based on one attribute only (honesty) – and dual poles (only two candidates);
I suggested four Key Performance Indicators ( integrity, proven ability, vision and comprehensive platform) applied on ALL candidates not just two.
Are you using the same standard as el Capitana (had to use singular as el Capitana use a unidimensional attribute with dual poles).
Reinz:
and as I have also said – that’s a cop out worthy of Pontius Pilate.
The bottom line is this – if you cannot convince your own family, what makes you think you can convince me that you can also convince the other oligarch families to support your social justice platform (ironic considering he does not have a platform.. which is another point.. toink)
Well, let’s take a look at your candidate BOngV, si Villar err si Perlas pala hahah
How come ratings are so down. Because they can’t seem to convince a good majority? TOINK! ~kablag~
who flipped flopped? NOYNOY ka na ba BongV? iniwanan mo na ba si Villar? errr my bad. Perlas?
Reinz:
That’s understandable.
Perlas is a totally different paradigm – not the same o same o paradigm.
Ika nga, pigs wouldn’t know what to do with a pearl.
Ratings is a function of name recall – Perlas has no name recall, has not been in the local headlines, so that’s understandable.
Moreover, given a good majority of vacuous people who would rather watch wowowee or the soppy telenovelas, they will definitely know more of celebrity sluts campaigning for politicians as against solid thinkers. That demographic wouldn’t know Al Gore or global warming, but it certainly felt the impact of Ondoy – catastrophically
reinz:
my KPIs are constant – whoever best fits the mold.
if in the process, new information comes out that shows one candidate fits the mold better, then I have no qualms in changing my selection.
at the very minimum, my game changer is – whoever commits to charter change, specifically, removing the pro-oligarch provisions against the foreign ownership of real estate – will be given a heavier rating in coming up with the scorecard.
right… dyan kayo mahinang mga tiga-FV. wala kayong convincing powers and as always parating ganito hahaha “pigs wouldn’t know what to do with a pearl” which truly applicable den to ya’all.
kaya wala kang makokonvince dito to vote for your manok, si villar man o si pearl dahil it’s not working dude. malaki na kasi ang pinagkaiba ngayong panahon with you old school books (sorry hahaha kilala na kita kasi hehe that’s not intended as insult) kami the newer generations do not believe in mudslinging
sino ba naman ang aayon senyo ni benigno na iisa ang mga linya ninyo. its sumali-kayo-sa-candidate-namen-because-we-are-intelligent-at-kayo-estupido-not-knowing-how-to-decide.
uto-uto ako pero in a completely different way hehehe in fak nasu-sulsulan pa nga ako
reinz:
am not out to convince – am out to discuss.
you come to your own conclusions – i don’t tell you what conclusion to make out of it. do not set up strawmen when you are uncomfortable with your conclusions, i know you know better than that
one man’s fact can be mudslinging for another – i have no problem with that. but the facts are still facts – it happened and no amount of changing the labels will deny the fact that:
1 – the Hacienda Luisita Massacre happened.
2 – Noynoy may not be directly involved, but then that brings the issue of his leadership to question – if was not able rein in his family then, what makes you think he will be able to rein in his family’s anti-poor actions later on.
3 – Hacienda Luisita brings Noynoy’s indecisiveness to the fore – and shows the conflict of interest in promoting genuine land reform. Distribute land not a piece of paper for wiping one’s arse.
Paano na lang yan, every legitimate question is called “mudslinging” – that’s not new school dude… that’s effin TRAPO OLD SCHOOL
we had so many competent “leaders” already.
Marcos was very competent. Credentials? Excellent.
Gloria was very competent. Credentials? Excellent.
Look what happened to us.
Dahil wala na si Marcos, if being competent is that of seeing another Gloria Arroyo… I would rather choose the incompetent in Noynoy who I believe has lot more integrity for me than the rest of the candidates.
i agree with you Reynz 100%! panalo ka na naman!
at saka si Kuya Bluep ang galing galing ng explanation!