Olongapo Due Process Gone Wild
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During the term of Richard Gordon as mayor of Olongapo City, there were at least 26 cases of “salvagings” or summary executions that victimized at least 28 people. The killings were believed to have been made to cleanse the city of undesirable elements and maintain its allure as the center for the R & R of US servicemen.
Olongapo officials dismissed such as “isolated incidents involving hardened criminals whose death were mainly due to gang rivalry”, it is a matter of public record that the victims were mostly teenagers and one was a woman.
According to records from the Olongapo City Fiscal’s Office, the following are among those who were allegedly “executed” during the incumbency of then Mayor Richard Gordon:
- Ernesto Manalang, several gunshot wounds, found March 8, 1980 at WBB, Olongapo
- Rodolfo Cervantes, gunshot wound on the right nape, found April 5, 1980 near Columban College, Olongapo
- Rey Ocampo, found April 16, 1980 inside a well in Old Cabalan, Olongapo
- Two unidentified persons, one with a gunshot wound on the right armpit; the other with a gunshot wound on the forehead, found May 11, 1980 near the cemetery in Olongapo
- Walito Visdo, gunshot wound on the head, found Aug. 18, 1980 at Kalaklan, Olongapo
- Antonio P. Sorio, stab wound near the head, found Aug. 16, 1980 at Old Cabalan, Olongapo
- Two unidentified persons, found Sept. 23,1980
- Unidentified person, gunshot wounds on his mouth and several incised wounds on his back, found Sept. 23, 1980 near Dam Site, Olongapo
- Unidentified person, gunshot wound, with bullet hitting the neck and exiting through the forehead, found Nov. 20, 1980 at East Tapinac, Olongapo
- Ernesto Santos, gunshot wounds on the head, breast and right arm, found Feb 23, 1981 at West Tapinac, Olongapo City
- Unidentified person, three stab wounds in the heart, found March 14, 1981 at East Tapinac, Olongapo City
- Norberto Guiang, several stab wounds on the body, found March 14, 1981 at East Tapinac, Olongapo
- Reynaldo Angeles, two gushot wounds, one on the left side of the head, one on the chine, found May 30, 1981 at 21st Place, WBB, Olongapo City
- Dominador Corum, gunshot wound, found July 9, 1981 at Kalaklan, Olongapo
- Unidentified person, stab wounds near his heart, found July 20, 1981 at Kalaklan, Olongapo City
- Edgardo Perigrino, two stab wounds on the chest, found July 21, 1981 at WBB, Olongapo
- Juanito Pena, stab wounds al over the body, found Oct. 8, 1981 inside the jail, Olongapo City
- Rolando Enrique, several stab wounds, found Dec. 19, 1981 at Sta. Rita
- Susan Tiongson, one stab wound on the left breast, laceration on the left ear, found Jan. 4, 1982 near the cemetery
- Unidentified person, contusions on the head, wounds on the wrist and legs, found Feb 8, 1982 at WBB, Olongapo City
- Armando Capul, several wounds, found April 26, 1982 at WB, Olongapo
- Wilfredo Santos, several wounds, found June 23, 1982 along Gordon Ave., Paga-Aasa Olongapo
- Edgardo Nierva, gunshot wound on the head, found July 5, 1982 at Dam Site, Old Cabalan Olongapo City
- Vicente Mingote, several stab wounds, found Oct. 30, 1982 at Gordon Heights, Olongapo
- Gorgonio Legario, two stab wounds on the left chest, found Nov. 6, 1982 at Sta. Rita, Olongapo
- Edgardo Cortez, several stab wounds, found Dec. 31, 1982, at WBB, Olongapo
These summary executions in Olongapo during the incumbency of then Mayor Richard Gordon were brought to the attention of then Minister of Defense Juan Ponce Enrile.
Now before you cast the first stone, let me remind you, these are not insinuations, like one Gordon supporter out there might try to suggest, but mere raw data and facts available to the public. It came straight from the records of the City Fiscal Office in Olongapo City.
If you want, you could insinuate amongst yourselves. Like what it says, these are summary execution style of killings. And as case of summary execution goes, no suspects had been apprehended.
Nobody here is blaming anybody. We could blame it on Marcos, the military, the police chief, it could be anybody. Hell, it could even be me, that’s if we go to the wishes of some propagandists out there.
But to our Gordon supporter who allegedly teaches in Maryland but a spin-master herself, here is your Olongapo with a case of due processes gone wild. You or anybody could spin this all you want.
These people cannot argue about due process, they cannot apply for a job even if they wanted to provide their voter’s ID, they certainly cannot define perception, whatever that means. They could probably define what slumber means. Simply because they are dead. But then again, don’t take my word for it. Besides, you won’t right?
For all we know, they might still be voting and working inside the Freeport.
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BURAOT is your quintessential skeptic but a not-yet-so-hopeless pessimist. Impatient most of the time, hence the name, he yearns to discover the magnanimity of the universe and the infinite folly of human stupidity (yep, that was Einstein's). And yes, oo.. he also want world peace. You can stalk him out at Anak ni Kulapo and I Am Buraot.
Then is it also safe to say that under the Aquinos/Cojuangcos rule on Hacienda Luisita, due process has also gone wild w/ the death of 12 farmers, 2 children and w/ hundreds hurt; hundreds killed every year on Quezon City, Manila, etc. under their respective mayors etc etc etc??
For all we know, these people might have been killed somewhere else.
exactly what i’m saying Jepoy.
Thank you for another balanced article.
your welcome Dada. I have some more.
300,000 men and women got jobs in Subic Freeport.
These are however not RAW DATA !!!
those are data as well Jet, am not saying it wasn’t. but i’m not talking about job data here am I?
No, what you are trying to do is to unfairly link these salvagings to Senator Gordon…(while I am linking him to relevant employment data he himself worked hard for…)
With the hope that atleast a few (gullible) people may be swayed not to vote him to office this May.
sure Jet,
tell these people what unfair means.
Thank you, Jepoy! I couldn’t have said it better! Thank you for acknowledging Jepoy’s comment, Buraot, you just contradicted yourself big time.
And thanks for the figures, Jet. I rest my case, hehehe.
Kutz,
yeah, i always contradict myself don’t I?
It’s hard to question a native…
thanks Johnonymous. however, they can always do. especially those who pretended to see, yet are blind, or fooled. or both.
just one thing buraot. you’re a brave man
fz,
not really. one reason i’m doing this is to make sure people know who the suspect is once i get murdered. arguments from pro-gordons are peanuts compared to the actual physical harm.
maybe then when it happens, pray not, then these people would finally say,”ohhh, me tama si buraot.” only it wouldn’t matter what that statement really means.
sensya na buraot sa obsession ko sa mga article mo. mga antipinoy/pro-gordon kasi e. kakabwisit e. lakas mambato ng putik. lahat na ng klase ng paninira ginagawa
no problem fz. at least hindi puro kontra sa articles k ang nagco-comment. bumababa ang high blood ko. weheheh.
so buraot, how about the irish priest. does he have credibility? you’re from olongapo so you know him i guess
well, his issues against the Gordons are valid. though his credibility had been tarnished by some issues arising from his own media tactics in catching pedophiles.
Hi Buraot!
may bagong isyu ka na naman ah
pero oks lang yan. kasi mga kaming may mga “edad” na na tubong Olongapo, naririnig na namin yang SALVAGING na yan. minsan nga nakatambay kami ng mga kaklase ko sa 25th street WBB, may bigla na lang ibinabang nakabalot na bangkay. biktima daw ng salvaging… kaya nga noon, ang biruan namin “o wag kang loloko-loko, baka ipa-salvage kita!”
isa lang yan sa mga pinipintas sa Olongapo, katulad ng prostitution, drugs, political dynasty etc…
nakikisimpatiya ako sa mga naulila at mga biktima ng mga ganitong karahasan. pero dahil hindi naman namin sila kilala, hindi rin namin alam ang dahilan, kaya ang mga ganitong bagay ay hindi namin gaanong pinag-uukulan ng pansin. marahil bata pa ako noong mga panahon na nangyayari yan, pero bakit yung mga matatanda, hindi naman kumikilos para mag-reklamo? bakit yung mga nakakaalam, wala din pakialam? matagal nang binitawan ni Dick Gordon ang pagiging Mayor ng Olongapo, naging senador, bakit hindi naging isyu sa kanya? dahil ba walang MALINAW NA EBIDENSYA na magtuturo na may kinalaman siya sa mga ganitong usapin?
sa lahat kasi ng reklamo, kahit gaano pa kaliit, napaka-importante ang EBIDENSYA! kasi kung wala kang hawak na malinaw na ebidensya, lahat nang sasabihin, magiging HEARSAY lamang.
Nakatira ako sa England, at kasalukuyan nagbabakasyon ngayon dito sa Olongapo, kararating lang namin pamilya noong linggo at kahapon dumating ang kaibigan ng asawa ko at pamangkin. Alam mo, buong pagmamalaki kong ibinida ang Olongapo at SBMA. sobrang tuwa ko, kasi wala akong dapat ikahiya, sa KALINISAN, sa KAAYUSAN, sa KATAHIMIKAN ng LUGAR, sa mga TANAWIN, simoy ng hangin. talaga naman MAIPAGMAMALAKI ko ang LUNGSOD ko!
kanina nga yung sunset sa beach, breath taking! parang hindi ko pa yata na-experience yon sa ibang bansa na napuntahan ko. para ngang ayaw na namin bumalik sa UK
walang perpektong tao, at lalong walang perpektong kandidato! Kung hindi man palarin si Dick Gordon na manalo sa eleksyon, personally, okay lang sa akin. meron naman akong OLONGAPO/SBMA na babalikan! and I really owe him for making me proud of my town!
MISMO! I strongly, vertically, horizontally, diagonally, agree with you, Alexandra! You said what some of us have been saying all along. Thank you for sounding off.
but of course. anybody who disagrees with me is agreeable aren’t they? wahahahah!
Don’t take it too personal, hindi ako nag agree sa kanya dahil nag disgaree sya sa yo. Not everything revolves around you, you know.
I just happen to share the same perspective with Alexandra on this very issue. I agreed with her because I see things the same way she does. And I’m happy that she sounded off because I always get the put off na, “hindi ka kasi taga Gapo, you only have information from TV and media”. O ayan, insider yan si Alexandra. Siguro naman credible sya as source of a different perspective di ba?
ayan ka na naman Kutz. spinning things. i am not taking it personally. and isn’t that obvious? please quit being a hypocrite. all and everything I say that is not in favor of Gordon would be questioned by you, you have, and you will always have. but please, i understand. you believe in the man, i don’t.
and who says everything revolves around me? perception mo lang yun. and unlike you, i do respect other people’s “perceptions”.
me sinabi ba akong hindi sya credible?
ang sinasabi ko, hindi tayo lahat pare pareho ng experiences at katayuan sa buhay. she and her family quite obviously had not been treated unfairly in olongapo. but others have.
don’t discount the possibility that others have a different experiences.
idagdag ko rin…sunday night kami lumapag sa NAIA, nakarating kami ng Olongapo, past 2am na. pero dahil sabik akong makita ang lugar, kasama ang mga anak ko, age 5 and 1, sakay kami ng jeep ng asawa ko papuntang magsaysay, bukas pa ang mcdo, kumain kami at namili ng ilang items sa jellibee… nakakatuwa yung 1 and half year old kong anak, pag nakakarinig ng tugtog, sumasayaw sa gilid ng daan… nakabalik kami sa bahay mga past 4am na. tanong ko lang, sa ibang lugar ba, katulad ng manila, magagawa bang mag-gala ng walang takot sa dis-oras ng umaga?! sa Olongapo, pwede kang mag-gala ano mang oras mo gusto! nang walang takot, walang pangamba na may mananakit sa’yo!
I’m glad that another native of Olongapo who sees things from a different perspective is sounding off. I am with you on this belief. I am so happy for you and I wish that we, “non natives” of Olongapo will experience the same leadership that you had. I wish our lawless environment down in southern part of the country will also experience the progress that you made. I always look up to how your people stood up and rose against the adversity and fear of the unknown when your main source of employment out there (the navy base) left the country.
It takes a very strong leader (like Gordon) to inspire the people to dig with their heels, roll their sleeves, and focus on a goal – create jobs in town and be productive economically!
Hats off to natives of Olongapo like yourself. Well done! Saludo ako sa inyo.
kutz, mag Jamby na lang tayo!
Sa totoo lang, kras ko si Jamby. Gwapo eh, hehehehe.
with all due respect and honesty, i wish for the same as well.
sorry you didn’t get me alex. like you and everybody around here, except maybe down there at anti-pinoy, i am very proud to be pinoy. i am also proud to have come from Olongapo. otherwise, i would magnify that i am born elsewhere.
olongapo have been the closest to my heart, hence my passion for it. the people have suffered too much. from the bases, from pinatubo, and from cronyism and traditional politics.
while some don’t see it, and believe me i do not blame them, me and the others who were disenfranchised see it because we experienced it. but is it a crime to say the negative things we see? should we take a blind eye because if we say something people might cast a negative idea about the place we live in?
that’s the main reason we say such things. so people may know and in effect cause change.
i do not take it against anybody if they are against Villar. I do not take it against anybody if they are against Noynoy. Unless of course if they are paid hacks and PR people.
i certainly do not take it against anybody if they are for Gordon. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE IT AGAINST ME IF I AM NOT.
i just don’t understand why some people cast me as a liar when all i say are my opinions and personal perceptions based on experiences. if you personally had only good and positive experiences in Olongapo, then good for you.
but like me, people can get mugged and beaten up simply because they are identified that they are not for Gordon. which is not right don’t you think?
uy, di naman kita inaaway ah
hindi ko naman sinabing mali yung sinabi mo, sinagot ko lang base sa pansariling nalalaman at opinyon ko.
sana lang maging patas lang tayo sa paghusga. kasi wala naman tayong katibayan na si Sen.Gordon nga ang mastermind sa salvaging na nangyari noong kapanahunan niya bilang mayor. katulad din ng nangyari sa’yo. naiintindihan ko kung bakit may hinanakit ka sa pamamalakad ni Sen.Gordon dahil nga sa iyong experience. Pero di ba, hindi naman siya ang nag-utos na paluin ka? sabi mo nga, hindi mo kilala yung pumalo sa’yo, hindi rin naka-uniporme? kaya bakit sa kanya lahat nabunton ang sisi?! yung doktor na tumanggi sa’yo, yung mga taong hindi tumulong, hindi naman sila si Sen.Gordon, kaya bakit siya ngayon ang hinuhusgahan?!
Alam mo ako hindi naman ako registered absentee voter. katwiran ko kasi, bakit pa ako mag-aabala, wala naman nangyayaring pagbabago sa bayan natin. lalo lang lumalala ang corruption!
2004 noong last akong bumoto at si Pres.Arroyo ang ibinoto ko. mula pa noong kumandidato siya bilang senador, sinuportahan ko siya. Isa ako sa mga natuwa noong pinalitan niya si Pres.Estrada… Hindi ba nga napaka-ganda ng imahe niya noong una?! anak ng dating presidente, kaklase ni George W. Bush. Economist, Harvard Graduate, magaling, matalino? Pero bakit nababalot ang bayan natin sa issue ng corruption, pandaraya?!
Personally, hindi ako naniniwala na mawawala ang corruption sa gobyerno? hangga’t tayong mga mamamayan hindi kikilos para baguhin ang ating mga sarili, walang mangyayaring pagbabago!
Noong isang araw, namali kami ng sundo sa bisita namin, napunta kami sa NAIA, yon pala nasa clark yung susunduin namin…kaya yung driver, nagmamadali, halos paliparin ang sasakyan… nahinto kami sa traffic light, nag-palit na nang green to RED ang kabilang linya, expected nang driver, mag-green na rin ang light namin. sinundan niya yung jeep na nasa harapan nya…ayon parehas na pinahinto ng traffic police, beating the red light daw… dahil nga nagmamadali kami para hindi maghintay ng matagal yung bisita namin, pinakiusapan na lang niya ang police, in other words naglagay na lang siya, noong una, 200 ayaw tanggapin, dinagdagan ng 100 pumayag din ang mamang pulis.
ayaw sana niyang mag-lagay, pero dahil nga isang abala pag kinuha ang lisensya niya, at tutubusin pa niya ng mahal, walang choice kundi makipag-areglo na lang.
hindi ito bago sa ating lahat, pangkaraniwang kwento na nga lang ang mga ganitong pangyayari.
Kaya sabihin niyo, MALULUNASAN ba talaga ng ating mga kandidato ang sakit na CORRUPTION sa ating lipunan?!
balikan ulit natin ang issue tungkol kay Sen.Gordon. Noong nalaman ko na kandidato siya sa pagka-pangulo, agad-agad, nagbigay ako ng suporta. kasi alam ko kaya niyang baguhin ang sistema sa ating lipunan.
Ang layunin ko hindi pansarili, kundi pangkalahatang kapakinabangan ng lahat… particularly, yung mga kababayan natin nagta-trabaho/naninirahan sa ibang bayan.
Sa totoo lang, mahirap mamuhay/magtrabaho sa ibang bansa. mahirap mawalay sa iyong mga mahal sa buhay. 5 y.o. ko ngang anak nung sinabihan ko na sandali lang kami dito at babalik din kami kaagad sa UK, halos maiyak sa lungkot. kasi masaya siya dito. pero kailangan namin maging practical, mas maganda ang kinabukasan niya sa UK kesa dito sa atin. doon libre paaral, international standard, libre ang pagpapagamot at marami pang mga benefits. Dito sa atin, nakakalungkot na wala tayong maasahan sa gobyerno natin. ultimo nga gamot sa health center, kalimitan nagkukulang pa ang supply.
ang hangad ko, sana maging CHOICE ang pangingibang bansa at hindi compulsory. Naniniwala ako na kayang mangumbinsi ni Sen.Gordon ng mga foreign/local investors para makapag-create tayo ng trabaho sa sarili nating bayan. Nang sa ganoon, magkaroon tayo ng pagpipilian. Kung maganda naman ang trabaho mo at sumasapat naman ang sweldo, bakit ka pa aalis di ba? bakit mo pa iiwanan ang pamilya mo? bakit ka pa magti-tiyaga sa kakarampot na sweldo na ino-offer sa’yo sa ibang bayan?
Marami nang gustong umuwing OFW. pero hindi makauwi dahil ang katwiran nila, wala naman daw naghihintay na trabaho sa ating bayan.
yan ang dahilan kaya si Gordon-Bayani ang kandidato ko, dahil naniniwala ako sa kanilang kakayanan na pataasin ang kalidad ng ating lipunan! Sen.Gordon is turning 65 y.o. this year, I’m sure, hindi na siya gagawa ng ikasisira ng kanyang pangalan. Nakakasigurado ako na kapakanan lang ng sambayanan ang kanyang isusulong.
kaya sana, maging bukas ang ating isipan. wag lamang pansariling kagustuhan ang ating pairalin, isipin din natin kung ano ba ang ikabubuti ng ating bayan.
weheheh. di naman kita inaaway alex. at salamat sa pagco comment.
madalas, kahit alam naman natin at malinaw kung sino ang mga gumagawa ng masama, hindi naman natin kayang patunayan sa korte dahil na rin sa maraming kadahilanan. maaaring yung mga witness umaatras dahil pwedeng natakot o nabayaran.
ang tanong ko ganito.. naniniwala ka bang corrupt si gloria? kung ang sagot mo hindi dahil wala namang kaso sa kanya, eh medyo magkalayo talaga ang ating wavelength. pero i don’t take it personally and i wouldn’t take it against you if you answered hindi.
same thing sa nangyari sa akin. sila ang nag-organized nung mob, binayaran din yung mga mob na yun. may witnesses kami. pero anong nangyari sa kaso? tingin mo ba me mangyayari? yeah, you can say na maybe di naman malakas yung kaso. tingin mo ba hindi lang ako tyoe nung doktor ng St. Jude kaya sila tumangging gamutin ako? it’s much more deeper than that.
but hindi lang naman yung problema ko ang gist of this whole thing, it’s also about those other Olongapenos who have suffered under their family’s regime. you and your family are lucky not to have experienced such. and again i wouldn’t take it against you.
but like you said, back to the issue…
we all have the same sentiments sa nangyayari sa bansa natin. we work hard abroad so we can send money back home to Pinas. the issue of our people to have better paying jobs at home is very personal and very complicated. i have to leave my kids behind you know.
creating jobs at home merely by foreign investors alone would not give us options to have better pay. although it would make lots of jobs available to a bigger number of people.
the reason foreign investors invest in third world countries like ours is because we have one of the cheapest labors in the world. otherwise di sila dito pupunta.
sana, kahit pabor ka kay gordon, you understand that what i’m doing is not trying to destroy gordon. my cause is to let people know the other side of the candidates so they can choose well. and in this case, i wanted them to know that not all they read from the mass media are entirely true.
we need to know the truth. whatever that is.
On the lighter side, pinipiktyur ko ang magiging kinabukasan ng Pinas kapag nanalo si Pareng Jamby, hahahahaha! Ano ga ang focus ng plataporma nya?
magiging national pis ang galunggong. HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Ang galing galing! Pwedeng pag usapan ng GRP at MILF delegates yan sa pis agriment nila sa Kuala Lumpur!
buti pa ang MILF at GRP may pis agreement. tayo Kutz, malabo ata. wahahahah!
@ Buraot-
We can always agree to disagree. I never questioned your experiences for one. Personal na experience mo yun, and contrary to what you’ve been saying, hindi ko kinuwestyon yan.
What I questioned and fundamentally disagreed with was your linking every crime that happened in Olongapo to Gordon. The exact same point that Alexandra is raising right now. You seem to believe that Gordon has personal hand on everything going on in Olongapo from extrajusidicial killing, nepotism, to renaming of streets, to hiring process in SBMA – lahat kasalanan ni Gordon. Sa anggulong yun, iba ang pananaw ko/namin.
Matitinding crimes yung inaakusa mo kay Gordon eh, sana lang may katiting na katibayan ka naman. But what you answered was, “you don’t have to take my word for it and you just have to go to Olongapo and find the proof there”. Or you told me na teacher pa naman ako, I should find logic in what you said or that you felt sorry for my students. What does that have to do with all these?
When you claimed that you didn’t get a job sa subic dahil sa political afiliations mo, I offered a possible scenario na baka kaya ka hindi natanggap sa trabaho sa Subic dahil maybe mas qualified yung ibang nag apply and it was a decision from the human resources. Posible yun eh. Kaya nga tinanong pa kita, ni research mo ba kung sino ang nakakuha nung trabahong inaplayan mo? Ni research mo ba ang qualification nun? But you were adamant that it was Gordon’s decision and he did it for political reason.
Even on this very “article” mo diyan sa taas, may nakalagay na “But to our Gordon supporter who allegedly teaches in Maryland but a spin-master herself, here is your Olongapo with a case of due processes gone wild”. Okay~~ So ano ngayon ang sinasabi ng mga datus na kinolekta mo? What are these data telling us in effect? It tells us that during Gordon’s term, Olongapo, just like any other city, has unsolved crimes in it.
Again ibabalik ko ang dating tanong ko, si Gordon ba ang pumatay sa mga ito? Or si Gordon ba ang nag utos na patayin ang mga ito? Where’s the link? Maybe it is just saying that the PNP is shorthanded or inutil ang chief of police? Bakit Gapo lang ba ang may mga ganitong krimen? Do we put the blame on the mayors? Eh pag susundin natin yang logic mo, lahat ng Mayors sa Pilipinas kriminal kasi ala naman bayan na walang crimes eh.
At this point, I am resigned that we will never see each other eye to eye on this issue. I admire Olongapo’s journey and I am amazed at how the leader was able to turn its economy around in the midst of tremendous job loss when the bases left. I give credit to the people of Olongapo on that – and to Mayor Gordon.
Apparently, iba ang pananaw mo. So be it. My only request is, stop digging the background ng taong iba ang pananaw sa iyo. That is totally immaterial and irrelevant. My teaching profession and residency in Maryland has nothing to do with all this. Nag raise ako ng questions punto por punto, sana sinagot mo na lang punto por punto and we let the readers see the two different perspectives.
Kutz, i merely responded in kind. you raised the stakes when you posted a comment pretty much telling everybody on an article that i am a liar.
you never questioned my experiences? my take is that you did. you in fact somehow insinuated that some of them never happened.
lahat ng issues that i have raised, sbma hiring process, the mob hit, renaming of public properties, etc, tinign mo walang basbas ni Gordon? if you believe that wala, di na ko makikipag argue.
but for one, i wasn’t born yesterday.
yung di ko pagkakaroon ng trabaho under his sbma, wasn’t it logical for someone to apply for a job na he knows he’s qualified? so the question of me applying for one na di naman ako qualified is merely a pathetic excuse to avoid the issue. besides, the real issue is not me but the people of Olongapo who cannot have jobs inside the Freeport bec. of their political affiliations. yun ang kinu-question ko dun sa hiring process.
after gordon got kicked out, i got a very good job inside sbma, simply because the “hiring process” was not anymore in effect.
and naming pretty much every public property under their name is not nepotism to you?
kasi Kutz, bago mo pa umpisahang basahin yung mga articles, biased ka na agad eh. me preconceive notion ka na agad. so whatever I say, wala rin. instead of asking objective questions, what you did is inakusahan mo na agad yung nag-aakusa.
what you did is wait kung magkakamali ako ng sasabihin to use it against me (not my article), my argumentative and debating skills and such and not the essence of the article itslef.
like i said, when you raised the stakes, i merely responded in kind. kasi nagturo din ako one time, pero i keep my personal opinions clear sa mga estudyante. so alam nila yung personal take ko as compared with the issues concerned. and i let them decide to formulate their own hypotheses. your being a teahcer is a common knowledge, i never had to dig. and it is relevant on the issues you were raising against me as a person and in the argument. shouldn’t it be fair that when two people argue, we both are out in the open, hindi yung ako lang?
but then again, no sense bringing it back. andun naman lahat sa thread. thank you for making the article one of the most famous page here.
Back in this article, like I said, I am not blaming anybody. you all couldn’t insinuate on this. i was merely on the ptah of trying to let people figure out why there ever was a culture of fear back then.
and when you read my future articles and how they have been treating people in Olongapo when they commented on my articles positively, hopefully marealize mo na kahit papano, may punto naman ako. (one barangay kagawad being summoned in ciy hall by city officials admonishing her for positive comments on my blog)
my logic is pure and simple. it is the state responsinility to make our people safe. and he who holds the power should be held equally accountable for crimes especially summary executions. only people who holds the power can do such. again you don’t have to take my word for it, magtanong ka sa mga social psychologists.
and while we don’t see eye to eye on the issues i have raised (we will never for sure even if a court convicts somebody) i want to tell you that i am proud of my fellow Olongapenos. after all they have suffered, andyan pa rin sila, kahit nadastardize yung concept ng volunteerism, ok lang sa kanila just to help their community go up.
unfortunately some politicians have used their blood and tears just to come up with slogans and be used as a political card.
but then again, you wouldn’t agree on that last statement, right?
Hello again kabayan!
sagutin ko lang yung tanong mo kung naniniwala ako sa pagiging corrupt ng 1st family, OO, NANINIWALA AKO! I have circumstantial evidence but I cannot prove it because I have no direct evidence. Katulad din nang Mag-biyenan na kumakandidatong oposisyon sa Olongapo, masasabi kong matibay ang aking “CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.” Pero sa tingin mo ba, may maniniwala sa akin pag “kumanta ako?” Kahit sumigaw pa ako ng “Darna!” Siguro, one week sensation, 20 minutes fame, pero pagkatapos non, may makakasuhan ba? Eh baka buhay ko pa ang pag-fiestahan pag nagkataon!
Actually, nung nabasa ko sa internet sometime ago yung pag-hysterical ni congresswoman sa congreso tungkol sa car-smuggling sa SBMA, natawa ako at nainis! eh kung alam ko lang, sana nag-collection ako ng litrato niya noong nanalo siya sa 2004 election, may victory party sa kanya ang isang car smuggler sa subic, mukhang nakalimutan niya na, siguro dapat ipaalala. sa Totoo lang, mukha siyang tanga! case ba ng “The pot calling the kettle black!” ay ewan!
Sa totoo lang, i learn about this blogsite when somebody posted a question at Dick Gordon’s facebook fan page, about the truthfulness of your story… I don’t want to put a comment on your first article, because it’s a story that’s close to your heart, and it’s your own story, it’s your own perspective, and i respect that.
Pero yung tungkol sa pag-apply ng trabaho, sasalungatin ko lang yung sinabi mo tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng voters ID. kasi ako, umalis ako ng bansa at age 18, pagkatapos ng pagputok ng Mt. Pinatubo. hindi ako nakaboto. after 3 years bumalik ako, operational na ang SBMA. nagtanong-tanong ako sa mga kakilala, pinsan kung paano mag-apply. lahat sila pur negative ang sinabi. kesyo daw, kailangan meron kang volunteers certificate or may kamag-anak na pwedeng mag-pahiram sa’yo nang volunteer’s certificate, kailangan nga din ng voter’s ID. Palakasan system daw. sila nga daw, isang taon na nag-apply, hindi pa rin natatawagan….
Pero ganon pa man, nagbaka-sakali pa rin akong mag-apply ng trabaho, inayos ko ang mga kailangan dokumento. yung voter’s ID, nagpa-rehistro ako dahil nga hindi ako rehistrado at inisyuhan naman ako ng voter’s certificate, yun bang mahabang printer paper. kahit wala akong volunteer’s certificate, sumubok akong mag-apply… wala pang isang buwan natawagan ako for interview. isang malaking kumpanya at Dollar pa ang sweldo ko!
kaya nga ganon na lang ang tiwala ko kay Sen.Gordon dahil sa aking sariling experience. noong nag-abroad ako, wala naman akong naipon, pero nung nagtrabaho ako sa isang kumpanya sa SBMA, nakapag-pundar ako ng gamit, masaya pa ako at wala pa akong pinapakisamahan ibang lahi.
kaya ayon din ang wish ko sa ibang kababayan natin. kasi kung meron naman trabahong maganda dito sa Pilipinas, bakit ka pa mangingibang bansa di ba?! Pilipinas na lang ang makinabang sa kasipagan at talento nating mga Filipino.
tungkol naman sa mga Presidentiables… hindi kasi ako bilib kay Noynoy, dahil walang political will. Si Villar naman, hindi pa man nauupo, nababalutan na ng intriga tungkol sa corruption, paano ka pa magtitiwala, kung hindi pa nga nahalal, niloloko ka na! si Bro.Eddie naman, malabong manalo kasi, religious leader pa rin ang tingin sa kanya, katoliko nga watak-watak ang paniniwala, paano pa kaya niya mapapag-sama ang lahat para iboto siya?! Si Gibo naman, turn-off ako nung hindi siya nagpaalam sa dati niyang partido. Para sa akin, wala siyang Prinsipyo! Opportunista rin! si Erap naman… kakatawa naman yon pag nangyari na naging presidente ulit siya, parang wala nang kapag-a-pag-asa ang mga Pinoy sa buhay! si Jamby, hindi ko rin gusto, si JC at si Perlas, gustuhin ko man, hindi pa rin mananalo… Si Sen. Gordon lang talaga ang nakikita kong kayang magpa-unlad ng bansa natin.
wehehhe. naniniwala ka pala eh. pero alam mo kung hihintayin nating ang 100% evidence para isipin na ganoon nga eh medyo malabu-labo kasi yun ngang me malinaw na ebidensya, nad-dismiss pa in court eh.
kung me alam ka kahit konti lang, i-share mo, kahit papano makakatulong yun dun sa iba. yung magbyenan na sinasabi mo, kung me alam ka, ilabas mo din. kasi kapag di tayo nagsalita kawawa ang bayan natin.
kung matatanong mo, ayaw ko din sa magbyenan na yun dahil trapo din at kumbaga may di rin magandang record.
dun sa mga presidentiables natin, at sa lahat ng tumatakbo, dapat nating linawin natin sa sarili natin kung anong pamantayan ang nais natin sa mga magpapatakbo ng gobyerno natin. isipin natih na ito ay isang job application, sila ang prospective employees at tayo ang employers (sempre walang hanapan ng voters ID, heheeh).
kung sino ang napupusuan natin ayon sa ating personal na pamantayan yun ang iboto natin, kahit pa kamo hindi naman mananalo. di tayo pwedeng sumunod sa kung sinong winnable dahil kapag nagkaganon, uto-uto ang labas natin. wahahah!
kung tingin mo si Gordon ang para sa yo, e di sya ang iboto mo kahit di winnable. kasi yun ang napupusuan mo at tingin mong may magagawa.
okey ba sa olrayt?
pahabol bago ako mag-low batt
hindi naman Pilipinas ang cheapest labour in the world, ikaw naman, kinakawawa mo naman tayo
ang pagkakaalam ko is CHINA.
pero hindi naman yon lang ang dahilan kung bakit may nag-invest sa atin, kundi dahil na rin sa strategic location, katulad ng SBMA, pwede mong ma-reach by land, by sea, by air… maganda rin ang lugar natin at higit sa lahat, yung MANPOWER natin ay MATATALINO, MASIPAG at MAABILIDAD.
Balita nga ng taxi driver na nasakyan namin, ang FEDEX daw nahihirapan sa CHINA, gusto nga daw bumalik (mukhang malabo) pero malay natin di ba. kasi daw mga chinese mahirap pasunurin, at may COMMUNICATION Problem din daw sa trabaho. Kasi ang mga chinese hindi mag-aaral ng english, kundi yung american ang mag-aaral ng chinese!
maraming factors kaya pinipili tayo ng foreign investors, hindi lang dahil cheap labour tayo….problema lang talaga natin ay ang pagiging unstable ng country natin at ang talamak na CORRUPTION!
kaya nga ang kailangan talaga natin sa panahon ngayon para maka-ahon ay strong leadership! yon ang sa tingin ko ang magpapa-angat sa ating bansa!
naka-iPhone ka ata eh. bili kang exra baterya. hehhe.
anyhoo, sempre di naman tayo ang cheapest. chika ko lang yun to get the point across. at taman ka, China ang sagot.
ang issue ng foreign investment ay medyo madugo. pwede nating i-simple na ang hinananap nila ay ang pagkakaroon ng host country ng political stability, cheap labor at may industrial peace, murang raw materials, strategic location atbp.
ang mga western countries ay medyo turn-off sa atin dahil sa red tape. tanging ibang asian countries ang swak na swak dahil di na kakaiba sa kanila ang corruption. kaya nga tuwang tuwa sila kapag me shirtage ng bigas kasi doble kita sila. pati ang China patok na patok din. di bat andami nating kontrata sa kanila, kulang na lang bilhin nila yung Spratlys. anyway, ibang story yun.
yung Fedex malamang lamang din. kasi kailangan nila naman talaga mag-expand. may simpleng issue kasi ang Fedex nun kaya umalis. hulaan mo kung ano?
katulad din yunnung ibang investor sa sbma na umalis noon dahil hindi nakatiis. pero bago ko sagutin yan at yariin na naman ko dito, gagawan ko na lang ng article.
wehehhe.
tungkol sa China, hindi lang naman tayo ang ka-deal ng china. pati rin ang US, di ba nga ang China ang tumulong sa kanila nang magkaroon ng CREDIT CRUNCH sa US at sa Europe. Chinese lend US the money to recover in exchange of US buying their products.
at alam mo sa UK, lahat halos ng produkto, made in china. mula sa oridnary hanggang branded products like toys, shirts, Disney products, lahat made in china. pati nga basura ng UK, sa china tinatapon at pino-process. kaunti na lang din ang mga manufacturing firm at factory sa UK, lahat nasa china na kasi mas mura kung i-import na lang ng UK ang produkto.
kaya kita mo naman developing countries ang china at pati na rin ang India. Ang Pilipinas, dati developing country, pero ngayon, 3rd world na lang.
noong isang araw nga, ni-report na 44% ang inflation rate natin. enough para magkagulo ang mga tao. kasi yung mga mahirap lalong maghihirap. yung halls nga at mga kendi sa bangketa, piso isa na! pag nag-grocery nga ako at may butal na centavos, hindi binabigay sa akin ang sukli ko ng tama. dalawang beses, yung 44 centavos hindi binagay sa akin. kundi nga lang magiging katawa-tawa, nagreklamo na ako! hehehe.. yung 25 centavos wala nang value! ano pa kayang mangyayari sa mga darating na panahon? baka maging kasing-hirap na tayo ng African Nation!
correction lang po. hindi po 44% kundi 4.4% po ang reported inflation rate nitong april 2010
buraot gawin mo yan! para magbago isip ng tao kay dick.
progress? for what price? what prize? haha
fz, actually kahit di ko na gawin ang mag to, di naman mananalo eh. weheheh. pero i wanted other people to know more and create a sense of, “ahh ano bang pinagsasasabi nitong alimango na to?” tapos macu-curious sila to get to know more. para malaman nila ang totoo.
Hey buraot Bago ba ito? nang aano ka nanaman eh…hehehe
if im not mistaken wala pa po atang 100,000 ang jobs ngayon sa Subic Bay Freeport.
2ne, inaano na naman nga ako dun sa main site ko eh. ni-cross post ko kasi. ayun me death threat na naman ang mga kulapo. walang kadala dala.
patingin nga ng link?
eto.. me bagong nagpapakyut..
http://www.iamburaot.com/2010/04/olongapos-due-process-gone-wild/#commentarea
hello again.. yung tungkol sa magbiyenan! kaya nga ako nagagalit, kasi sabi nung babae sa interview ng probe team kay Sen.Gordon, tawag daw kay Gordon eh “SHAREMAN!” kainis! kasi para bang napaka-linis ng pamilya. eh magkano kayang kinikita ng biyenan niya, asawa at kapatid ng biyenan niya sa ukay2 na pinupuslit sa SBMA?! magkano kaya per container ang kitaan? magkano kaya ang kinita nila sa panambak (quarry) na ginamit sa SCTEX? Sa hueteng ng zambales? sa car-smuggling kaya ng sbma, magkano rin kaya? sa importation ng alak at sigarilyo, magkano rin kaya? sa sabong? magkano kaya ang napapanalunan?! hindi ko alam kung magkano ang bigayan. hindi naman ako ang direktang nagbibigay, pero yung tungkol sa per container ng ukay2 ako gumagawa ng computation. kaya alam ko kung magkano, may 5 milyon siguro bawat tao x 4.
to be honest, di naman ako totally sold out kay Sen.Gordon, dahil yung mga narinig mo, narinig ko na rin ang mga yan, at karamihan ng mga taga Olongapo, yan nga ang mga sinasabi tungkol sa kanya. aaminin ko, doubtful din ako kung ano ba talaga ang totoo.
pero sabi nga di ba, you look at the glass as half full, not half empty. kaya kung ano man ang mga anomalya o pagkukulang ni Sen.Gordon, natabunan ng mga magagandang nagawa niya. at saka kung effective leader rin lang ang pag-uusapin, eh sigurado talagang effective sa pamamalakad si Sen.Gordon.
Leader ng bansa ang i-elect natin, hindi naman Santo Papa. Kaya balansehin lang natin kung ano ba yung kailangan talaga ng ating bayan at huwag nang pairalan ang ating mga emosyon. kasi lahat naman ng kandidato nangangako ng maganda para sa bansa. pero hangga’t hindi nagagawa, mananatili itong mga pangako lamang!