What’s wrong with Noynoy’s Campaign Ad?
There is really no point in defending Noynoy’s now popular campaign ad because it speaks for itself. Yet with all the buzz going on in and out of the mainstream media and in the internet about this very much talked about music video, it’s hard to ignore the impact it generated to both pro and anti noynoy camps. Of course, some anti-aquino out there would always wield their fangs and claws to attack me and tell me bluntly that this post of mine is another biased effort to lean towards noynoy, but hey, are the pro villar, pro escudero and pro erap has the sole monopoly of opinion? taking my cue on Barrio Siete’s current tag line — Imbalanced News, Biased Views, I dare speak out my mind.
So the Critics of the Aquino camp simultaneously launched their black propagandas at the instant that this video was first seen on ABS-CBN. It is as if they felt threatened by its message, delivery and of course the star studded content of the 3 minute music video. Why threatened?
I have watched the video over and over again to the point of saturation, but I cannot see anything wrong with the video. The anti-aquino’s on facebook, twitter, youtube and forums were particularly uncomfortable with the parade of big stars and celebrities in the ad including Mega Star Sharon Cuneta, Song Writer Ogie Alcasid, Teleserye king and Queen Marian Rivera and Dingdong Dantes and the talk king Boy Abunda. But what’s with the fuzz about the big stars?
First and foremost, the talkative sister of Noynoy already cleared that it was the stars who volunteered for the video. They were not forced, asked or paid, but with their own free will extended their support to the point of publicly exposing them in the ads.
What the critics doesnt know is that, before the shoot even began, Noynoy had a private dinner with the stars. The dinner according to starlet Anne Curtis was for the purpose of knowing Noynoy and not to persuade them. In the said private dinner, the stars interrogated the reluctant presidential candidate. They asked his plans and platforms so that they will know better the person they are supporting. And after that dinner, they were given the choice to join the ad or not. And the result was the said ad we are seing today on TV.
Comedian Aiai de las alas was even asked by Kris Aquino twice if it will create a controversy for her since the ad will come up on tv before the showing of her film with Joseph Estrada who is also a candidate for the Presidency. The Comedian replied that since the EDSA days, she has already been a pro-aquino and doing the ad is her personal choice and her relationship with co-actor Joseph Estrada is a non-issue with regards to her political convictions.
You see, these stars volunteered freely. If you were in the shoes of the Aquinos, and these stars are offering their support freely, wouldn’t it be rude to decline knowing that their only intention is to show everyone what they believe in? Like us private citizens, we are fond of putting banners in our houses of our supported candidates. So what’s the difference? it just so happens that these stars opted to be in the banner rather than putting the banner on their houses.
So the reason that Noynoy is “NOW A TRAPO” because he uses stars in his ad is I think immature and a narrowminded reason, perhaps even a sourgrape and a cheap shot to put down aquino’s credibility.
I am apolitical, until Noynoy came into the picture. So the awakening of a political fervor in these stars is inferior to our own political awakening as private citizens? Stars have the same plotical rights as ours, the only advantage is, they have more responsibility to their fans in terms of public opinion. And participating in the ad is a silent opinion that they are supporting a cnadidate who they believe is worthy of their votes. So what’s wrong with that?
The reason that Noynoy is using these stars in garnering votes is off tangent. Even before the ad showed on National TV, Noynoy already took lead in the survey, trampling the other candiudates to bite the dust. So simply saying, Noynoy’s ad is only the icing on top of an already delicious cake which is Noynoy himself.
Puke and vomit if you must, but we can never ever deny the fact that more and more public figures are now supporting Noynoy. Even Fidel Ramos’ niece lambasted his own uncle and pleaded to support Noynoy instead. In fact, Tattler and Uber Blabber Kris Aquino confided already on the newspapers that the ad we saw is only the first batch of stars. Expect more and more big names will surface on Noynoy ads as the Campaign gets tighter. Its inevitable. We have to face it. More and more public figures wanted to share themselvs for FREE!
So what’s threatening about the ad?
1. It is none divisive unlike the other political ads which pitches the poor against the rich
2. It is not defamatory, it doesnt say anything against any political rivals.
3. It’s void of subliminal message. What you see is what you get
4. It touches the heart and sentiments of the Filipinos, longing for unity and change
5. Its a message of hope clearly seen in in the backdrop of darkness and illuminated by the lights that emanates from the torches.
6. Its not deceitful. There is no “Paid for by friends of Mahoma”. It enlists the actual supporters in enumerated names scrolling upwards at the end of the video. And the names are not fictitious. You can go to youtube, enlarge the video and push the pause button: you can read the names of the actual supporters of the ad one by one.
7. It doesnt make empty promises. The video clearly hopes for a change.
8. The message is not self-serving– it doesnt only focus on Noynoy but on the entirety of the filipinos– soliciting support to everyone, rich and poor alike.
9. It doesnt exploit the plight of the Filipino people like in the case of some ads that uses Ondoy and poverty as their selling point.
10. it captured the most sincere expression of Noynoy… look into his eyes, it says everything. Only people full of hate and with an IQ of a doorknob cannot know the difference between the sincere and the insincere.
11. The ad is focused on the meaning and not on the stars themeselves. Majority of the comments I read focused more on the message of the video rather than the stars themeselves showing up on the ad. The stars are only enhancements of the already meaningful video.
12. The video says it all. No agument needed.
Understandably, any trapo who spent billions in campaign ads who found out that his ad suck, would really be threatened on a music video interspersed with tantamount of meaning, familiarity and Pinoy sentiments. Like what a Comelec official said in an interview by a GMA 7 reporter on prime time news, “Campaign Ads should carry the over-all message of the candidate because at the end of the day, it is the sentiment that touches the heart and soul of the Filipino People that matters”. —-The same sentiments that made EDSA 86 possible and restoring democracy in our country.
Contrary to accusations, the Noynoy ad is non trapo. Trapos sell themselves on ads at the expense of the poor filipinos plight, our misfortunes, catastrophes and the likes, only to find out that they are all empty promises. Trapos spends money “buying” celebrities for support. Trapos use issues to the point of slinging mud on other candidates by saying “double meaning statemensts”. Trapos shows videos of numerous engagements, shaking hands with the common tao and panning shots of people in political rallies. Noynoy’s ad had none. From the Director, to the composer of the song (which is alcasid) to the advertising agencies and crews who united in order to come up with such a beautiful video, they all freely gave their time, talent and treasure— no deals nor exchange whatsoever— Just like the spirit of EDSA 86 that we have come to know in our history.
And just like Jim Paredes’s Love Song to the Country immortalized in “handog ng Pilipino sa Mundo”, “Hindi ka nagiisa”, will become the battlecry of those people who want change– not Brains, Not Credentials, Not Skills, Not Platforms and definiteley Not experience but Change. For all we know, our Current Leader Gloria and other political cndidates has everything from Brains to credentials and to experience but there is one thing lacking: Change!
So what’s wrong with Noynoy’s Campaign Ad?
It threatens the insecure, it triggers the crabs, it shakes the foundation of the powers that be, it crumbles the pride and hubris of every political rival… and it is the anti-thesis of the prevailing TRAPO ads…
That’s why to those who continue to throw mud on the Aquino Ad, let me quote what Noynoy supporters in Twitter, Youtube and facebook are saying:
MAMATAY KAYO SA INGGIT hahaha
For the pleasure of irking the nerves of the hecklers, here is the ad again. Magsawa kayo kasi may susunod pa yan LOL
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wow. ang galing ng pagkakapaliwanag.
(applause!)
pero kung ako lang talaga, e wala naman kasing masama talaga. ewan ko ba sa mga pilipinong ito. kung naiingit e di gumawa din sila!
kaya di umaasenso kasi sa mga ganyang ugali.
hay!
Hindi ko nga magets kung bakit ang dami kontrapelo sa ad na to. eh wala namang pinatatamaan dito. Saka isa pa, nasa sa botante na yun kung magpapadala sila dito sa ad na ito. Kesehoda na puro artista to. may talino naman ang bawat pilipino upang kumilatis ng totoong ad o kaya karapatan na pumili ng ad na gusto nila.
AMEN! ang galing talaga ng paliwanag mo! ako nga everytime na panoorin ko yan, ramdam na ramdam ko ang ibig sabihin ng kanta at naiiyak ako sa ganda ng pag kakagawa nila. talagang inggit lang sila!
Lol Kungdi sila threatened bakit galit na galit sila sa ad na ito diba? LOL
I love the campaign ad. Hindi pretentious tulad ng ibang contender.
exactly what I said: what you see is what you get
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bravo!! malinaw ang paliwanag mo
Pero tama ka sa mga ganyang kaliit na bagay dapat hindi na pinapgtalunan yan. ano nga bang meron kung maraming artista?
Although hindi ako maka-Ninoy, in fact hindi pa ko registered voter (wala akong kwenta).. but with my own opinion wala ngang masama sa video. soguro nga ay naiingit lang ang iba jan.. para lang silang bata kung magreact, kapag nakitang mas maganda at mas mahal ang damit ng classmate nila pag Christmas party, ayon kung ano-anu na sinasabi.. lolz
haha Mismo. Bull’s eye. motto namin ng mga kumpare ko sa inuman noong lasengero pa ako “walang pakielaman” haha
for me when i first saw it i thought it was ‘too showbiz’ but as i read this post, let’s just say naliwanagan ako. isa pa, i love ate kris noh!
ako naman, hindi yung mga artista naka struck sa akin kasi di naman nila ako fan lalo na ni Kris at Boy hahaha what touched me was the overall message of the Video and the fact that it was a love offering. Para sa akin kasi mabigat yun dahil eto mga tao na to nag ambagan ng oras at talento para lang sa kanilang paniniwala.
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nung una ko talaga nakita yang video na yan, akala ko talaga station ID ng ABS-CBN. Hindi ko kasi nasimulan kaya hindi ko nakita si noynoy pa. pero pinakinggan ko, yung kumakanta pala is Regine.. hindi naman lumipat sa ABS si Regine a..
then lumabas si Dingdong, si Marianne, tapos kapamilya stars.. aba, sino ba ang makakapagsama-sama ng kapamilya at kapuso..
then si noynoy, aba, siya lang pala ang makakapag-unite sa kanila.. Isang Aquino.
I see here the same unity na nakita ko noong DLSU-ADMU game this year sa UAAP. na ang prevailing color ay yellow at hindi the usual green and blue.
please take note, hindi pa po ako pinapanganak noong EDSA revolution. kasama ako sa mga kabataan na walang alam tungkol sa diwa ng EDSA.
Di ko sya nakita sa TV, sa blog ng isang Barrio writer. How I wish you were already born during the EDSA days, mas lalo ka siguro makakrelate sa ad na yan… same sentiments though very different political situation
speaking of EDSA, it was disgusting how the oligarchs piggybacked on the gains of the militant mass movement, then released a trojan horse called Cory.
EDSA brought “change” – in reverse, retrogression instead of progress, a return to the oligarch monopolies of the Lopezes, the Cojuangcos.
seeing this new TV ad is just as disgusting – the vacuousness, the crass appeal to the emotions – nothing of substance, hanggang porma lang.
When i first saw this video i thought it was just a movie clip ni Regine, eh di naman ako maxado fan.. kaya wala lang.. but when i saw NINOY ayun na.. sabi ko eto na toh., i even call may mom’s attention to watch the video (pero sabi niya napanood na daw niya)..
dun na ko nag focus sa video and sa lyrics… SOBRANG DETALYADO NG VIDEO NA YAN… makikita mo ang meaning ng bawat scene.. and yung Lyrics sobrang may PUNCH sa heart.. alam mo yung tipong mag si-seek ka talaga ng pagbabago!?! yung kagustuhan mo talaga sa pagbabago ng PILIPINAS mararamdaman mo..
sobrang simple! sa tingin ko hindi na dapat gumawa pa ng Ad si Kuya Noynoy! kasi ito palang SOBRANG LAKI NA NANG IMPACT SA MGA PILIPINO!
Tama yung nabasa ko sa taas.., wala siyang ginamit na kahit anong pananamantala sa mga nangyari sa pilipinas para iangat lang yung pangalan niya. At hindi na naman niya kailangan pang gawin yun dahil sa Family niya.
Ako i am willing to be one of the campaign manager ni Kuya Noynoy..
kahit dito lang sa area namin. Dahil sobrang laki ng tiwala namin sa kanya. Naniniwala kami ng hinding hindi siya kagaya ng ibang pinag handaan ng mabuti ang pagtakbo para mangurakot! basta yun na yun. sakit na batok ko. lol
When my Mom saw the ad on TV, knowing she’s not that emotional, she shed a tear, even my dad when they saw the full vid on abs-cbn. My dad who is uber pa-macho at siga sigaan effect quipped: “kinilabutan ako sa ad na yan”.
The meaning itself is enough. The stars is just an enhancement. If we remove the stars and place anonymous people of course the impact would be less, but the feeling and sentiments would be the same.
Some people are just too “crabby” over analyzing the ad to the point of opposition. Lam mo naman marami sa atin nagtatalino-talinuhan lang–wala rin naman LOl
I liked the ad. I thought it was very interesting. To me, it evoked a lot of things. A longing for something to change once and for all. A wanting by all Filipinos for not just a better life but good governance. However, I do not believe that non-Noynoy supporters wanted a crazy and insane Philippines. I for one also believed that they too want a prosperous Philippines. We all just don’t agree on who the right leader to move us forward.
That’s true. I have been observing and reading comments of noynoy supporters on videos of the other candidates, but I never stumbled any heckler or trolls lambasting other candidates in behalf of noynoy. kung Meron man ay hindi ko nabasa.
Am I right to assume na Noynoy supporters are more mature and civilized than other supporters? hahaha
my 2 cents. ang mag react guilty!
Pag nagkaroon sila ng comprehensive substantive platform consistent with the track record (or lack thereof) – maniniwala akong they have politically matured
ito lang ang nakita kong mali, HINDE KO MASABAYAN ANG TONO NI REGINE! hahaha
tsaka bat hinde naka-yellow si Bea.
bwahahaha as usual binirit na naman ni songbird LOL
si Eric Santos din di naka dilaw, pati si Kris. Pati yung mga madre hindi dilaw ang belo hahahaha
astig yung part na may bangka. ang galing. nalungkot lang ako na si boy abunda pala yung nakasakay haha.
ahh right. pati pala yun mga basketbolista hinde yellow ang jersey haha
haha baka naman mag kulay LUGA na yung ad sa dami ng yellow kaya yung iba di na pinagdilaw
i find it quite interesting!! it has a message.. well for those who dont like i thnk they are just jealous bcoz a lot of actors/actresses are supporting noy for free.. i believe in wat ninoy stands for!!
same here. Meggy welcome to Barrio
“it captured the most sincere expression of Noynoy… look into his eyes, it says everything. Only people full of hate and with an IQ of a doorknob cannot know the difference between the sincere and the insincere.”
I just have to point this out: 1) expression of what? 2) EQ, not IQ is responsible for distinguishing sincerity from lack of it. 3) I don’t think you can measure sincerity out of a campaign ad, but debates and face-to-face discussion of issues, which he refuses to attend to most of the time 4) I don’t hate him, in fact I may vote for him out of moral integrity, which the country badly needs. I just have issues with the mass media and his credentials.
I actually have more points to manifest but I’ll reserve it for my future spare time. You may also want to proofread your article. I notice many grammatical inconsistencies. I also advise you to cite sources of the critiques or critics you are referring to. As far as I can remember, I have not encountered an article stating that they were “threatened” by the ad.
Hi Sigrid.
1) Expression of Sincerity
2) Typo error. We can change “I” to “E” if you want. madali naman ako kausap
3) It’s a writing style, figure of speech, a metaphor… Literalism is the lowest form of intelligence. read between the lines, know the context and observe the style of the writer…
4) good for you.
—Proofread
I maintain 5 blogs, still on the process of creating 2 more blogs, i have a day job, I have a construction business to attend to and still i have to care for my family members. Aside from that, umeextra ako sa pier bilang kargador at sumasideline ako sa Malabanan taga sipsip ng poso negro. My life is not spent on the blogosphere 24/7. I have a life. When I write my piece, i dont edit them thoroughly, after all Im not competing for a an essay contest nor do I work for a newspaper. I just write in my free time, and when Im done converting ideas into words, I push the submit and publish button, whether or not it was proofread. To hell with grammatical errors. To hell with verbal elitism! I dont give much emphasis on grammar because I don’t think it’s a gauge for intelligence. Isa pa, di naman ako matalino. It’s always the over-all message that counts — and the “EQ” of course
If you want you can apply as our official Barrio Siete Grammarian. because we don’t have one. Just keep us posted if you are interested and we will readily introduce you to our Grammar 101 Master Critic — Charmaine. exchange kayo ng notes para masaya hehe.
—Advice
I don’t need any advice. Thanks but no thanks. I don’t also name names nor do I need to pinpoint the links to articles or forums which I’m referring to. I trust my reader’s intelligence and common sense for them to figure it out for themselves. Isa pa, I’m a blogger, not a researcher. The last thing I want is to instigate a fight hear/here (which is which?) among other supporters of candidates. Google has already covered that job for me. You just have to type the keywords and push the button. If you have not encountered any article, well it’s not my problem anymore. And correction, wala ata ako sinabi na “article”. Proofread mo. wala ako sinulat na word na “article” LOL
Thanks for dropping by Sigrid. Hope to [hear/here] more [of/from] (which is which?) your Grammatical Insights
dahil sa mga nabasa ko, mas nagustuhan ko pa itong ad na ito. Ang galing talaga! Perfect! The message was really there… parang mabubuhay ulit yung pag-asa mo para sa Pilipinas dahil dito. Nakakaiyak nga kung talagang damdamdamin mo at inisip mo pa ang ginawa ng mga magulang nya para sa Pilipinas. Lahat kami dito sa bahay supporter ni Noynoy, we really believe in him. Ikakampanya nga namin sya.
Hello Kei.
The vid speaks of hope.
Talo ka kita kasi ito village namin ay Noynoy country. Nung namatay si Cory kahit wala program sa city para kay cory, lahat halos ng bahay dito sa bukid may dilaw na ribbon. Interesting thing was, most of the residents here are farmers and poor people.
Brilliant article….amazing justification to the AD of NoyNoy. Actually NO NEED TOO!-because it really touched all Filipinos who want CHANGE!!! To have a really good people in the government…good in the sense that they are DOERS of morally right things and not WAITERS(just Waiting…) or WATCHERS(just looking…) Bluepanjeet you are such a beautiful person and using your gifts for a good purpose….CYBER MISSIONARY of goodness!!!! More power and God bless us all.
Ms. olivia, welcome to Barrio. As usual we cannot please everybody. Meron at meron pa rin talagang kokotrapelo. and its okay kasi they are also entitled to contradict. Just don’t expect that I will rebut kasi may bago ako philosophy: “kung di nila maintindihan sinulat ko, problema na nila yun” haha
I had fun writing this piece. I know that it will be another controversial post. haha And I was right! More traffic for the Barrio LOL
ang violent reaction ko ay bakit ang haba ng hair ni marian rivera sa music video??? meganon??? hahaha!!!
pero seryoso, tumayo balahibo ko sa music video…
nag-alab ang aking kamulatan sa katotohanan…
na ang pagbabago…
mula noon, ngayon, kailan pa man, di ka dapat nag-iisa!!!
Noypi ako!
Noynoy for President
Mar for Vice President
Chiz for Chiziness! Inferniz, may political ad pa rin kahit di naman sigurado kung tatakbong pangulo o ikalawang pangulo… chizmiz!
bwahaha. Nainlove nga ako kay Marian, tipo bang inosente na naghahanap ng liwanag haha
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Here are some points I took away from this insightful piece of yours, Mr. bluepanjeet:
(1) Aquino is an ok guy because the stars made the decision to participate in the ad after “ask[ing Noynoy] his plans and platforms so that they will know better the person they are supporting”
Note how the words “plans and platforms” and “private dinner with the stars” were used in the same paragraph, yet it was the part about the consorting with the stars that was highlighted as the key argument around why Aquino is an ok guy. You’d think that because the guy is running for the highest position in the land, it would be more of his “plans and platform” that would be the more important piece of information to highlight.
If indeed these “plans and platforms” were discussed in said dinner, then the bigger question is begged: Where and what exactly are Noynoy’s “plans and platforms”? Or does all this constitute information that only The Stars are privy to? Seems like the public would be content to know that these were discussed with the stars without having to actually verify if said plans and platforms exist to begin with.
(2) The stars “volunteered freely” to participate in the production of the campaign ad.
The author continues, “If you were in the shoes of the Aquinos, and these stars are offering their support freely, wouldn’t it be rude to decline knowing that their only intention is to show everyone what they believe in”.
There it is: That renowned Pinoy character trait at work in the man most likely (albeit “reluctantly”) to lead the Philippines from 2010 to 2016:
Utang na loob
(Roughly translated: “debt of gratitude”)
I would have thought it would be reasonable to expect of a person who plans to lead a major southeast Asian country of more than 90 million that the basis of any decision he would make (including one that would involve who and what he will associate his campaign with) would be a rational thinking through of the factors and circumstances surrounding said decision. Instead we see Aquino, the “reluctant presidential candidate”, making a decision on the basis of an ego-boost he gets from a night of schmoozing with a bunch of showbiz personalities.
And what reassures us voters of the genuineness of the show of civic fervour amongst the lot of our starstruck country’s most beloved entertainment idols?
I feel better (and entertained) already.
What seems to escape the vacuous sensibilities of the starstruck set is how the over-emphasis of the supposed “volunteerism” at work here actually contributes to highlighting how contrived the whole thing actually comes across.
And indeed, after all of the above (the emphasis on the dinner, the schmoozing, and the contrived volunteerism), plus the irony that escapes us: that these are people who make a handsome living pretending to be something they are not, it is all “off-tangent” after all:
(3) “Even before the ad showed on National TV, Noynoy already took lead in the survey”
The survey here being merely the most recent of many past and many more to come that have — and will — show Aquino as by far the most popular presidential candidate of the lot. So according to the author, Mr. “bluepanjeet”, The Stars are just private citizens who happen to be famous, who “have the same plotical [sic] rights as ours” and are (presumably in joining the Noynoy bandwagon) merely voicing “a silent opinion that they are supporting a cnadidate [sic] who they believe is worthy of their votes”.
Hmmm… doesn’t a “silent opinion” cease to be “silent” once you voice it? Considering this sampling of the kinds of “opinion” we are talking about here…
…perhaps society would have been better off had these “opinions” remained “silent”.
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The battle cry, “ituloy ang laban ni Ninoy at Cory” is anachronistic and therefore becomes superficial. Does this mean that the regime of Cory and her successors did nothing to realize what we all wanted? Hanggang ngayon ‘yan pa din ba ang battle cry? Wala ba nagawa si Noynoy sa congress and senate? At tayong mga Pilipino wala ba tayo nagawa para sabihin na “ituloy ang laban ni Ninoy?”
The video gives us the impression that Noynoy is only good to lead the country because he is the son of Ninoy and Cory.Compared to other candidates, Noynoy doesnt have track record, leadership qualities, vision and agenda to lead the country.
With the airing of that video on national tv ahead of the mandated campaign period, Noynoy has entered traditional politics. Hindi naman tayo tanga para maniwala na hindi pangangampanya yung ginagawa nila sa tv. This reinforces the old traditional politics of personality.
When he declared his intention to run for president, he said that he would deviate from the traditional style of using tv ads. O eh, bakit may tv ad sya?
Your comment is off tangent. I never said that the ad is not a campaign ad. Please read the post before you make a comment. I have already made an insight about the “trapo issue” being attached to the ad. Again read the post. It’s exhausting to answer redundant arguments.
I was reacting to the message of the video and not to your blog post. No need for me to read your lengthy post.
masyado pang maaga para magkomento.
I like your comment, one liner. hindi katulad ng iba dyan na desperado sa attention ko kaya kinanya na blog na ito sa haba ng comment eh ino-ver analize lang naman ang sinabi ko. tapos sa akin pa kinuha ang idea sa entry nya at tinawag nya na brilliant haha ayun nilalangaw… wala kasi originality. Insecure. LOl
dahil si kengkay e matagal ng wala sa pinas, hindi ko alam na mga artista na pala yung mga karamihan na andun sa videos. kaya hindi pwedeng gawing base yon na pang hakot ang mga artista dahil ang mga karamihan din siguro sa absentee voters e siguradong hindi na rin kilala ang mga supposed to be sikat na andun.
at oo nga, itong video na ito e hindi pa nga obvious na campaign material e dahil kulang sa pa kyut at sa pagbatikos sa kapwa nila kandidato
Hehe welcome back Mommy Kengs. Long time no talk. nice point. eh alam mo naman iba tao. kahit di sila binabatikos threatened. Mga insecure ba. LOL
im sure with this ad ang 60% maging 70% pa…thank you for your explanation sana basahin ng maayos sa mga nag komentaryo ng negativo para maliwanagan din sila at sila na mismo nag bomaliktad at susuporta nalang for change.
Exactly my point memel. Welcome nga pala sa Barrio
Nicely written kuya bluep! We had a discussion ng kaibigan ko who’s also an OFW/immigrant (whatever!) in the land down under. Mahaba haba kaya yun… point is, we really cannot tell kung ano ba talaga ang kayang gawin ni noynoy, until the time na mananalo siya. And, i also do not think na kakayanin ni noy mag isa yun.
Whoever will win, I am sure, kahit konti (i am trying to convince myself here) meron pa naman sigurong natitirang kahit konting hiya at ipakita na may concern sa Pilipinas para baguhin ito/ pilit na itaas para umasenso, I do not think kakayanin ng pangulo natin na mag isa siya.
Monique, that is so true. Akala ata nung iba dito porke nagsusulat ako kay Noy eh ibig sabihin 100% sold out na ako sa kanya. Of course I also have my common sense. Of course I also use my brain. Hindi naman ako bobo. kaya nga ang nirereplyan ko lang eh yung mga comments na sensible at hindi nitpicking lang nung mga sinulat ko sa taas.
Like many of us who want change, ako din mismo may mga katanungan kung kaya nga ba ni Noy ang isang napakalaking responsibilidad. Hindi porke I find him as an alternative eh wala na ako agam agam sa kanya. I am a critic, not a fanatic.
Sa dami ng iiwan ni GMA na dumi, mukhang mahihirapan ang susunod sa kanya.
Pero ang nakaka gulat nga dun eh kahit madami ka agam agam kay noy, mas nararamdaman mo pa rin na may pag asa pag sya nanalo. Most of us think na solo ng presidente ang trabaho. Hindi. The next president needs the help of the people. and that is what the ad is telling us.
Hindi yung “si ganyan lang ang pag-asa ng pilipinas. Marami natulungan si ganyan. laki sa mahirap si ganyan. maraming nabigyan ng trabaho si ganyan, galing at talino ni ganyan. etc.
To hell with these trapos!
A friend of mine once said, it is not Noynoy per se that is annoying. It is his supporters, whose continuous melodrama and vacuous interpretation of what he supposedly stands for actually contributes to making him look like a chump in the eyes of those who want to see REAL fundamental change in the way Filipinos regard their role in a democracy — one where intelligent and rational approaches to evaluating their candidates are routinely applied.
Let Noynoy speak ABOVE his supporters rather than BEHIND them as he demonstrates in this very video.
i got your point..
sa video naman na ito, wala namang nagsalita (kundi si songbird lang na kanta nang kanta).
they just showed that they are supporting and giving the same amount of light that would ignite the change. kailangan lang talaga ng mamumuno.
nakakapagtaka lang kasi, si Enrico Villanueva (Ateneo Basketball Supasta) yung pinakamalapit ke Noynoy dun sa last picture ng video. wala akong mabigay na deeper meaning dun sa scene na yun. ahahaha.
I really don’t like some of the celebrities that appeared in a video, but since I am a Noynoy volunteer here in Davao, I still wholeheartedly support the ad… I would also like to say that I truly agree with your statements about the “Noynoy Haters.” Furthermore, I really really appreciate this work of yours. I am hoping this won’t be your last…
Rirol, I am apolitical until Noynoy came into the picture. What I am writing is not for Noynoy alone but for the crabs who doesn’t seem to understand the big picture and are fond of over analyzing things. This is just an ad for crying out loud. How much more if Noynoy can prove himself in the near future.
Like what the other commenter above said, its too early to comment. Let us Just enjoy the vid as is because it’s a labor of love. If it is an eyesore then wag panoorin.
Ako pag kinokomercial yung iba kandidato, i change channel. I have the option. as simple as that. Bakit yung iba di magawa? And talagang pinapanood pa rin yung ad ni Noy?
Just shows they are disgusted because it was too good that they cannot seem to swallow that the ads of their political cock sucks!
akala mo trapo yun pala mali! hahaha
Prove himself in the future? Hmmmmm… Get someone who has already proven himself – Nick Perlas
Why settle for winnability and the popular – when you can choose ability, integrity, proven performance (hindi crystal ball ang gamit).
The video is not a political ad, rather a music video..LOL
To those who are questioning kung ano ang mga nagawa ni Noynoy, why not dare to ask also kung ano din nagawa ng mga ibang aspirants? Uhh, nga pala, ung C5 (uhuhu, EXCUSE ME POH!!!!!) ;P Did they know the real meaning of “hirap”? I guess no. What’s the sense? Here’s the sense, habang si Villar and many other aspirants for Presidency eh malayang naglalaro sa kalsada, si Noynoy ay nasa tabi ng kanyang ina, nakikipagrally para sa pagbabago, namuhay na ang tatay ay nasa bilangguan, ang pamilya’y iniipit ng gobyerno. Got it?
There’s nothing wrong about the video, really. Except of course for those insecure souls. If they call it “trapo” so ano tawag nila sa mga ads ng ibang candidates? Basahan? Grasa? Basura? *laughs* for the one who’s intriguing about the battle cry, “ituloy ang laban ni Ninoy at Cory”, well, uhh, mas maganda naman yun compared sa mga nakakadiring paulit-ulit na mga pagtulong sa mahihirap na wala naman actually nagagawa at magagawa, right? *PEACE!*
The Funny thing is, ad pa lang yan ni Noynoy, dami na nagrereact. How much more sa totoong campaign trail nya?
Updates from FB: Marte Blanco Aquino
“with all the stars in his campaign ads, dose not make Noynoy a “trapo” they volunteered.. A TRAPO goes more than that… going to a training camp of a popular boxers to persuade him for his support and an actor who not only using actors and actresses but ginagamit ang pagiging artista!”
Updates from FB: Arlene Grace D. Nava
“simpleng ad palang yan, natataranta n sila what more pag campaign period n at makita nila ang sangkaterbang supporters ni NOYNOY… tyak atakihin sila… NOY 4 2010…”
Updates from FB: Mary Darich Angel Baclayon
“very well explained. i will surely continue campaigning for Noynoy. if ngayon takot na sila how much more later if lahat na ng big stars lalabas to help noy.”
Updates from FB: Gil P. Tan
“Saying bad things about the other candidates neither does make your candidate better nor the other candidates bad. Just say your piece and let the people decide. Eventually, people will know how did the candidates garnered support-binili ba o hindi.”
Updates from FB: Cholo Herrera
“i see parallelism between Noynoy’s campaign and that of US president Obama when he ran last year. In the US people were attacking Obama left, right and center about his ability to govern, his platform of government and his being a neophyte senator/a virtual unknown if you will. But US needed someone that can inspire, someone who can bring change, … Read Moresomeone that can unite the people to go forth and bring America back to its feet – that’s why they voted for him.
This is what we need in the Philippines – CHANGE, and I think Noynoy is a great inspirational candidate and that he can truly bring CHANGE with OUR HELP. Barrowing from Obama’s campaign – YES, WE CAN!”
Yes, we can?
We can what?
Change?
Change what?
Updates from FB: Maricar Te
“Keep Going Philippines! ako lang naman ang taong gusto rin ng CHANGE sa Pilipinas. Idol ko rin yang Obamang yan.! I follow some of his Speeches sa Youtube specially when it is about fatherhood… pinakikinggan ko talaga… “Being a father is not a joke. It is being a leader to one, two or more kids and to one woman that beats your heart.” …
Leadership begins at home. If you belong to a Family with good leaders, you may have the traits of good leaders. But, in the other side of a coin, you may not acquire it. As some other people were saying, “Noynoy is not Ninoy” but we always put into our mind that a child will always acquire the traits of either or both parents. I am not saying you have to vote Noynoy beacuse he had that historical parents. (because he may not acquire those traits too)
It takes time to decide who’s to vote. We just only put into our human instinct that deciding who’s to vote is not like tossing a coin that we depend on the luck with that coin. so, think many times as much as you can because people are leaders in their own way.
Big CHANGE depends on the voters. So, voters should take time to decide because change is not an overnight process.
I thank you.
Updates from FB: Jose Lim
“When I first see the ad, I am touched with hope that someday our country would taste a bit of progress from the hand of a good leader and free of ‘corruption’. To those stars from the cinema,who gave their hands to Noynoy, my fullest gratitude as an ORDINARY CITIZEN. Thanks…”
Updates from FB: Rhoda Reeves
“Noy is a threat to traditional politicians because he has something that they don’t have- unquestionable character.”
Updates from FB: Pamela Reyes
“Like I said before, I love the ad and its message. Let us just go slow on its showing before the official campaign period para hindi mapagbintangan si Sen. Noynoy na “trapo” na namumuhunan by way of campaign ads. Few know the story behind the ad and its being a labor of love. Careful lang tayo na hindi matalo ang beautiful message ng ad.”
THE ONLY THING WRONG IS THAT MAR ROXAS IS MISSING whacha think???
haha like what i said in a certain blog, it could have been better if Mar was on it too. Maybe the supporters who funded the ad was only for Noy and not for Mar. But it would have been more powerful if Mar was on it.
[...] very powerful blog entry that elicited some very heated and fiery reactions both on Facebook and in Barrio Siete. In fact, one FB blogger compared “What’s wrong with Noynoy’s Campaign Ad?” [...]
Trouble with Noynoy is that he is running on a pedigree platform. So if in the course of running the country from 2010-2016, what exactly do we hold him accountable to? How do we measure his performance and determine whether he is fulfulling his campaign promise or not?
For that matter, what are his campaign promises?
All we seem to have to go on in our on-going evaluation of Noynoy Aquino the Presidential Candidate is his being the son of Cory and Ninoy Aquino. So when he takes his seat in Malacanang post 2010, what do we take him up on?
“Hey Noynoy, start ‘finishing what Cory started’, ok?”
What exactly does “finishing what Cory started” mean in precise terms?
Unless we are able to answer these INTELLIGENT questions, we will remain an electorate that votes on the basis of VACUOUS notions of what it means to be administering and governing a chaotic basketcase country of more than 90 million.
I agree with you benign0. That’s exactly the reason why i said that the “ITULOY ANG LABAN NI NINOY AND CORY” battle cry is anachronistic and therefore becomes superficial.
A candidate who has political ads aired on national tv AHEAD of the mandated campaign period is a trapo. Noynoy is a trapo!
Hindi yata naintindihan nang isa dito ‘yun.
More insight from this excerpt from a Philippine Star article by Carmen N. Pedrosa (7th Nov 2009):
Sayaw Pinoy sayaw.
Here’s more groundbreaking insight on Noynoy:
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why is that when a person criticizes noynoy his rabid supporters automatically assume that the critic is a supporter of another candidate.
ako hindi talaga pabor kay noynoy sa ngayon kasi wala siyang ipinapakitang plataporma (o huwag niya na ihirit yung kawalan din ng plataporma ng ibang kandidato ha si noynoy lang pinaguusapan dito). suhestiyon ko sa mga taga-suporta ni noynoy, break muna. ano ba basehan niyo at sumusuporta na kayo agad sa kanya? wala naman siyang sinasabi pang magandang plano para sa bansa? so ano nga ba ang pinagbasehan ninyo?
maganda rin siguro suriin niyo mga sarili niyo dahil baka naman nadadala lang kayo ng mga kadramahan at ka-showbizan ng kampanya ni noynoy.
isipin niyong mabuti walang kinalaman sa magiging pagpapalakad ng bansa ang pagiging aquino ni noynoy at lalong walang kinalaman ang pagkamatay ng kanyang nanay.
character ba ‘ka nyo? ano ba talaga ang character ni noynoy?
don’t you think you’re all just ascribing to noynoy traits that you want to see in a leader not necessarily traits he really has?
btw, bluepanjeet, [delete] ( the issue here is not bluepanjeet. ~La Kapitana)
finally, sa mga EARLY supporters ni noynoy (take note EARLY as in yung sumuporta na wala pa namang sustansyang ipinapakita ang kandidato) kayo ang mga magpapabagsak sa bansa natin sa totoo lang. laliman niyo pa ang pagsusuri niyo. puro kayo pa feel good feel good eh. huwag niyo ipahamak ang bansa natin. mas mabuti pa tutal supporter na rin lang kayo ni noynoy gamitin niyo ang lakas ninyo para mag-demand sa kanya na linawin na kung ano ba talaga ang mga plano niya para sa bansa.
[delete] (only privileged barrio people are allowed to swear here ~La Kapitana) wala namang magagawa ang pa-honest honest kuno niyan para mapaganda ang bansa natin KUNG(take note uli sa kung) yun lang ang ibibigay niya.
o bago magviolent reaksyon… lilinawin ko uli wala pa akong sinusuportahang kandidato ok. sumusuri pa lang. dapat kayo rin.
Botomoto – Given na you are telling us na suriin namen ang sarili namen, I think you need to start making suri about yourself hard also based on the way you make comments like this. ~La Kapitana
Wow, I take that as a compliment. Thanks but no thanks. Ar far as I’m concerned, I am expressing my OWN opinion. What’s wrong with that? Are you going to stifle my right to free expression or question my worth as a blogger just because I defended Noynoy? That I think is more shallow than my analysis.
That’s why you wrote a lengthy comment because my analysis is SHALLOW? That’s why your brain was triggered to say what you said is it because my analysis is shallow?
Sabi mo mababaw, per4o mababaw pa lang yan nosebleed ka na sa comments mo, Pano na pala kung malalim ang sinulat ko eh di lalo na sumabog ilong mo?
Focus on the issue dude not on me. Don’t attack the writer, attack the issue. As far as im concerned, the only shallow analysis here is your comment because you are barking on the wrong tree. You are slamming the object instead of the subject.
Welcome to Barrio though.
Peace and I hope you will sleep well.
SUPPLEMENTAL:
The LIST of media people in Gloria’s payroll
Rivero said spouses of several known columnists and media personalities were also appointed to government posts like Thelmo Cunanan (husband of Belinda Olivares-Cunanan) as president of the Philippine National Oil Co.; Karina Constantino (wife of Randy David) as chairman of the Civil Service Commission; Albert Pedrosa (husband of Carmen Pedrosa) as PNOC director; and Catalino Flores Jr. (husband of reporter Marichu Villanueva) as director of RPN-9.
so much for credible source!
Source: NEWSFLASH.ORG
Yeah – it’s another typical forget the message, just focus on the messenger thingie.
For discussion purposes, even if they are on the payroll – does it make the message any less relevant?
What exactly does Noynoy stand for?
Specify the change, change in what?
Change in Constitution to allow foreigners to own real estate – with certain qualifications?
What is his position on the Jobs and the Economy? Thus, far only Perlas has a clearly defined platform on jobs and the economy. Aquino, Villar, Escudero – have platitudes, totally devoid of substance.
That’s the sort of stuff I’d rather hear than look at a cheesy ad.
SUPPLEMENTAL:
Carmen Pedrosa is a Plagiarizer!
Reading the papers last weekend, I see it appears that Philippine Star columnist and Charter Change advocate Carmen Pedrosa have either chosen not to respond to my letter to the editor regarding her two counts of plagiarism in her column (one in 2006, and the other last June), or are still deciding on what course of action to take. I hope it’s the latter, because I don’t think she, or the reading public, should ignore the fact that she has been less than honest about what she writes, considering that she has continued to question the credibility of those who protest or oppose Charter Change. Until she owns up to her dishonesty, she has no right to question others’ credibility, when her own credibility is in itself in question [...]
Source: Geyone.Blogspot.Com
Even if she is a plagiarizer , the message about Noynoy does not lose relevance at all and the points raised remain valid.
SUPPLEMENTAL:
Carmen Pedrosa Plagiarized in 2006
In her column yesterday, Carmen Pedrosa wrote the following sentences: “Classic tenets of journalism call for objectivity and neutrality. These are antiquated principles no longer universally observed. If we are ever to create meaningful change, advocacy journalism will be the single most crucial element to enable the necessary organizing.”
Apparently, originality is also something that is antiquated, as Mrs. Pedrosa apparently lifted the whole thing almost verbatim from either of two sources, without giving credit to either source: the Wikipedia entry on advocacy journalism, which quotes from a 2004 article by Dave Berman, “Advocacy Journalism, The Least You Can Do, and The No Confidence Movement.” found in the Independent Media Center.
Source
Even if she plagiarized in 2006 , the message about Noynoy does not lose relevance at all and the points raised remain valid.
The Lopez owned media boasts of its multiplatform structure —
television, radio, cable TV, the Internet, and mobile technology. I can bet you it would never be used if it were in support of a strong state capable of regulating the power of monopolies. But for a long time now, it has been clear that the marriage of powerful media and political partisanship is a lethal combination. It has not helped the country move forward. It isn’t about change but about protecting the status quo.
SUPPLEMENTAL:
Carmen N. Pedrosa, serial plagiarist?
As I suspected, given that plagiarism all too easily develops into a bad habit, Carmen N. Pedrosa’s plagiarism of a Wikipedia article in her 20 June column is by no means an isolated incident.
A Google search led me to the blog Daily Musings, whose author, Eric Tomas, reads Pedrosa’s column regularly in order to “see what counter-arguments can be readied against her [pro–charter change] assertions”. (There are, in fact, several posts that specifically mention Pedrosa.) In a post entitled “Postnote to Pedrosa Article“, Tomas points out that Pedrosa’s 5 November 2006 column lifts a sentence directly from “Advocacy Journalism, The Least You Can Do, and The No Confidence Movement“, an article by Dave Berman, without any acknowledgement.
Source: Random Salt
Even if she is a serial plagiarist , the message about Noynoy does not lose relevance at all and the points raised remain valid.
So far I haven’t seen any actual counter-argument put forth here on points raised regarding the ABSENCE of any substance underpinning Noynoy’s campaign. All we have are rather lame attempts to discredit messengers. Typical.
How can something so ridiculously cheesy be threatening? It still panders to the same demographic – the DE group which comprise 93% of registered voters. That’s the “language” which the DE group understands and can be easily swayed with, thus the format. Where the noveau riche had Erap Estrada, the oligarchs now have Noynoy Aquino.
Same product packaging, look into the eyes and see the sincerity. How many single mothers bore children out of wedlock due to sincerity by looking at the eyes? Lol – ain’t that the height of naivete?
How can it be an anti-thesis, when it uses the same format, the same appeal to the emotions, nothing of substance. Are we now promoting lack of substance as being the anti-thesis of being trapo? Oh my golly, the Philippines is in for far worse times.
Just because Aquino and Roxas are not flashing all the four “Gs”
* guns and goons (as in bodyguards reminiscent of Hacienda Luisita Massacre),
* gold (as in Cojuangco+Lopez+Oligarchs) , and;
* girls of ABS-CBN/GMA-7)
does not mean they are not trapos.
Simple enough. If this is so cheesy, then why all the rankles?!
again this reply is based on the assumption that those questioning noynoy are for other candidates. i, for one, am dissing this ad for the simple fact that it is so trapo. o para fair, lahat so far ng may ad sa tv puro trapo ang approach. all meant to pander to the emotions, which is the traditional approach as we should all know. you gotta admit this noynoy ad is all about emotions.
it is also super trapo because of the heavy use of showbiz personalities. now don’t tell me that isn’t trapo. erap used the same technique before, so did gloria, so did every other politician who has ever aired a political ad on national television.
in short — and this totally demolishes the premise of this post — this noynoy ad is trapo.
granted the video was full of traponess, now do not discount the fact that it was bayani, gibo, villar and the rest who started early on with their ad infomercials, why noynoys? why not them? they’re all full of traponess anyway? right?
now here’s a question: how do one makes a video which does not show any tinge of traponess?
i agree and i said it already they’re all trapo.
“how do one makes a video which does not show any tinge of traponess?”
admittedly for a 30 second or even a one minute tv ad this would be difficult. but then again getting a really solid and susbstantial message in such a tight space is a more worthwhile exercise of creativity, isn’t it.
the way i see it the candidates can come out with tv ads that focus on one particular problem that they want to solve and present their idea as to how they plan to address it. it’s doable. tv news reports can be as short as one minute. why not follow the same format. obviously they will have to do away with any of that trapo crap (showbiz personalities, song and dance numbers, etc. etc)
SEnseless… worhtless… and a TRAPO… hek!
Mamatay kayo sa inggit at inis. Dahil kahit ano pang ‘intellectual analysis’ ang gawin at sabihin niyo against Noynoy Aquino, bottomline is pakikinggan pa rin siya ng mas nakararami. If the majority’s choice turn out to be wrong in the coming days then you can blame them/us who chose them. If not, isang malaking neknek niyo.
Isa pa, why don’t you bring your opinions and facts dun sa taong pinagpupuputok ng butse niyo. Huwag ang messenger na iba naman ang sinasabi ang tinatalakan niyo. Gosh Abelgosh!
you can say the same thingabout Cory Aquino… Erap… Arroyo… neknek myo.. na naman…
Precisely the point I’ve making all the while. The leaders of a democracy reflect the people who voted them into office.
Noynoy of course is likely to win. But then that simply illustrates the character of the Filipino people — one that is averse to “intellectual analysis” (as you put it) and more in tune with Wowowee approaches to catching their attention.
we hear you benigno. only you and FV are capable of intellectual analysis and so therefore, anyone who chooses Noynoy is using the wowowee metrics.
so be it.
i call on mel to help me design a wowowee flag then.
Like what I said, address it to Noy. I know he has better answers than mine or any of us here.
it really doesn’t take much to analyze and realize the obvious lack of substance of the noynoy campaign. kitang kita naman pati ang trapo approach. anyone who says differently — that this ad is not indicative of a trapo mindset — needs to use some more brain power. i hope they’re up to it.
we would like to be as intelligent as you are botomoto and switch to your candidate if we could. mind sharing who your candidate is?
the god honest truth i don’t have a candidate yet. i’m leaning towards some people (note leaning) but i can assure you villar isn’t one of them. however, as i said leaning pa lang so i am still in the process of scrutinizing the candidates. and that’s the point. we should scrutinize. in the case of noynoy there’s nothing to scrutinize. why do i say this. well we’re talking about elections and elections have more to do with the future, right? ergo shouldn’t we be talking about plans? platforms? where’s noynoy’s? ala pa di ba. i therefore conclude that early (note early) supporters of noynoy really have no solid basis to rally behind him at this point in time.
all i’m saying is let’s elevate the debate (not just in this post per se) to one that focuses on ideas not on personalities. that is so traditional politics don’t you think. aminin man o hindi ng mga early pro-noynoy’s their adulation for the yellow one is centered on his personality. worse it is centered on the supporters’ perception of noynoy’s personality. that’s all.
ok so to clear the air. as i said i do not have any candidate yet. peksman and i am seriously looking into the ideas of all these candidates. admittedly wala pa talaga masyado with the exception of nicanor perlas. hopefully may maglabas nang iba so i can have something to compare. that’s wise evaluation, is it not?
This was the same discussion I have with BongV on the other thread
http://barriosiete.com/whos-to-blame-by-all-these-black-propaganda/
I believe that part of the misinformation campaign of the anti-noynoy camp is to project that noynoy is clueless and so therefore the focus is on “where is the platform”. That’s too elementary for me. Dahil sabi ko nga ki BongV, sino ba naman ang tatakbong Presidente na walang platform? Ang given the restrictions nang campaign, could it be a strategy nang Noynoy Camp to bring it up during the official campaign period? Makes sense?
So what don’t we all wait. Relax. Sit back. Cool ka lang.
well the country’s future is important isn’t it so why wait till it’s justa few weeks before elections? voters should be given ample time to really analyze and dissect the platforms. ano browse browse lang?
so are we just suppose to content ourselves with watching their political ads which really don’t say much.
i’m sure noynoy has some grey matter but as a candidate he should prove it, NOW not later. this is especially true in his case considering his lackluster performance all this time.
relax relax is not really an option if we truly want to evolve as voters and if we are really interested in getting an enlightened and competent leader elected.
“misinformation campaign of the anti-noynoy camp is to project that noynoy is clueless and so therefore the focus is on “where is the platform”
perhaps there really are anti-noynoy groups out there. but i can assure you the online group that pioneered the call for platforms since many months ago is not necessarily anti-noynoy. i think it’s kinda unfair to just categorize everyone who’s questioning noynoy as anti-noynoy per se. you can be assured that there are those who are able to look beyond the personalities.
if you truly believe that he does not have a platform, i’ll switch allegiance to your candidate who has one.
but like BongV, you’re also – ahh.. i’m still deciding. that’s doesn’t seem fair to say like me whose for Noynoy. sometimes i would like to believe these emails i get from all over the place telling me that so and so are paid hacks.
i have yet to meet someone who is anti Noynoy and say definitively he’s for Villar or Chiz or Loren or Gibo.
that’s why i find my conversation with Kris Andres more meaningful than you, BongV and Benigno because Kris is for Gibo, period.
All three of you are just like that… anti-noynoy.
fair enough. promise, i’ll tell you who my candidate will be as soon as i decide. right now wala pa talaga peksman. who knows i might even vote for noynoy that is if he impresses me with his platform.
as a voter, i’m really interested to know how he plans to bring about “change” and revive “hope” and all that jazz.
if you think hard about it lahat naman ng kandidato claim the same things, di ba. what would differentiate them from each other are their platforms.
i’m not anti-noynoy per se just so you know. i’m anti-substance free.
ok so you won’t think i’m for villar. i was previously leaning towards gordon. but unfortunately, it seems he won’t be running anymore. but take note even then i was just “leaning.” wala pa naman kasi talagang solid basis. all i had back then on gordon was his track record. but past achievements are not enough. strangely enough even in that area medyo kulang si noynoy. you gotta admit that at least.
well the good thing that’s going on here is we are discussing candidates. it’s a good thing na mabalatan sila sa mata ng mga botante.
the problem is the abuse of the word trapo. ano ba ang trapo. we should backtrack and let it simmer for awhile before we say trapo this trapo that.
kasi botomo, if you were originally gunning for gordon, eh he’s one of the trapoest of the trapo. i should know, i came from olongapo.
to tell you the truth, i liked the guy’s charisma even before i met him and even after. but soon as i lived in olongapo i knew that he’s all leadership and charisma, and that he’s all PR.
nothing more.
buraot,
i need to clarify that again. i said i was leaning towards gordon. but granting sige sabihin na natin i was for gordon no argument trapo din si gordon but he did deliver results so even then kahit papaano naman may laman. but that’s beside the point because as i’ve been saying the best indicator of future performance pa rin is platform. i simply mentioned that i previously considered gordon to dispel any notion that i am for villar. now to reiterate… at this present time i honestly do not have any candidate yet.
ok na rin we’re discussing candidates even better sana if we’re discussing their platform. what do you think?
botomoto,
bahala kayong lahat dyan sa platform platform na yan. madali naman akong kausap tol. ang ayoko lang lumayo na ng husto ang usapan at puro ad hominem attacks na lang, mga wala pang wenta ang mga ibang banat mo, buti na-delete kasi nakakaalibadbad naman talaga, i tell you.
here’s my take on platforms. it does not matter. kasi every election naman may mga lumalabas na mga plataporma lahat ng mga pulitiko eh. nagagawa ba?
but ok for the sake of argument platform counts and they REALLY do follow it through, i guess let’s wait until the official campaign period na ilabas nilang lahat ang plataporma nila.
kasi yung other political ads naman wala rin namang malinaw, puro soundbites lang.
my honest take on this Noynoy ad is that it’s panimula lang at kumbaga panggulat lang. Pinutakte naman agad.
buraot,
kaw naman i thought peace na tayo.
anyway, cynical naman msyado ng view mong ito
“here’s my take on platforms. it does not matter. kasi every election naman may mga lumalabas na mga plataporma lahat ng mga pulitiko eh. nagagawa ba?”
to clarify… oo may nilalaba silang something noon na tinatawag nilang platform. ano ang laman? “i will fight corruption” “i will create more jobs” at kung ano ano pang “i will.”
that’s not the kind of platform we want. dapat mas detalyado. like sa corruption ang daming pwedeng gawin para labanan ito. ang tanong ano nga ba ang gagawin ng mga kandidato?
forget all the “nakakaalibadbad” just consider this: wala naman sigurong masama na may mga humihirit na maglabas na ng plataporma di ba? essentially masama ba yun?
masama din ba na lakasan ang sigaw sa paghingi ng plataporma para malaman din ng iba na meron palang ganon at baka sakali makita na magandang atake din yun sa pagkilatis ng mga kandidato?
kung ayaw mo manwagan para sa plataporma ok lang. asa na lang ako na kapag naglabasan nga ang mga plataporma nila sisilipin mo man lang. i’m sure gagawin mo naman yun.
now tungkol naman dito…
“ang ayoko lang lumayo na ng husto ang usapan at puro ad hominem attacks na lang, mga wala pang wenta ang mga ibang banat mo, buti na-delete kasi nakakaalibadbad naman talaga, i tell you.”
parang ironic. ayos na nga ng usap natin may ganito ka pa kumento. di ba’t ad hominen din ito? nagtatanong lang.
btw, iisa lang naman ang banat ko: platform based versus personality based. so ala pala kwenta lahat yun? kahit kaunting validity wala? sobra ka naman.
anyway kung tinutukoy mo yung mga banat ko kay bluepanjeet. sige tanggap ko mali yun. pero tinigilan ko na di ba? eh siya kaya? pakibasa ang mga pasaring este kumento.—-THIS IS MY LAST WARNING. WE WILL BAN YOU IF YOU WONT STOP INCITING RIDICULOUS AND OFF TANGENT COMMENTS. STOP MENTIONING MY NAME. YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME. I DONT EVEN ANSWER YOUR COMMENTS NOR DO I HAVE THE INTELLECT TO STOOP AT YOUR LEVEL. SO STOP ASKING FOR MY ATTENTION AND STOP NITPICKING AT MY COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU WILL JUST BE DELETED AGAIN AND AGAIN. FOCUS PLEASE ON THE ISSUE. WAG KA KSP. AGAIN THIS IS THE LAST WARNING. — BLUEPANJEET
anyway basta ako peace na ko sa yo. kung tutuusin ikaw naman unang bumanat sa kin eh. natawa lang naman ako sa “fool” comment mo. pero peace na. platform na!!!
botomoto,
para naman tayong iba bok eh. amoy ko naman kung saan ka galing. weheheheh.
at least inamin mo naman na nakaka alibadbad ang banat mo kay bluep. ikaw man, dumayo ako sa blog mo at magdududura ako dun, mababad trip ka din.
anyway, masisisi mo ba ang kagaya ko na maging cynical? but op kors pag me naglabasan na mga plataporma ang mga burges na andyan sa tuktok ng katrapohang ehersisyong ito, sempre babasahin at hihimayin ko din. at i’m sure ganon din naman ang iba. problema kasi itong electoral process na ito, persoanlity based na talaga.
unless the progressive movement could come up with something alternative na pwedeng ibenta sa masa.
o yan ha. pis.
hey bluepanjeet what’s with the moderating? dami ko comment di mo inapprove. have you forgotten about this “Violent reactions are welcome. Kiver kahit anong sabihin mo.”
i knew it. [DELETE]. [DELETE] di bale that’s ok this is your blog anyway. [DELETE]
@botomoto,
i just checked and there was only one – that of BongV and you’ve got nothing there.
in any case, yes kiver kahit anong sabihin but be careful enough to bring this conversation as personal attack which you are doing now. and which i will edit right now.
no problemo. but you should also check bluepanjeet’s comments. in fact he has some double standards. but in deference to you i will stop now.
So now its my fault just because I responded to your ad hominem comment with sarcasm? Mature…
Treat others with respect if you want respect. Pure and simple.
no it’s not you’re fault. it’s noynoy’s.
i think it’s about time authors should have the right to have the final say which comments should be moderated. we should keep the argument rolling as long as there is juice in it.
if some fool would just decide to make others more foolish than himself, we are just wasting a now-valuable pice of cyber real estate.
kung gusto ng isang magkalat at magpaka-baboy wag ng hayaang magkalat pa dito. dun na lang sa sarili nilang blogs.
yes, there is freedom of speech, but we should remember there is no such thing as unlimited right. lahat ay moderated by other existing right.
as far as commenting is concerned, all comments such as paninira lang sa tao or anything unconnected to the topics discussed should otherwise be removed.
sayang lang ang time ng mga nagbabasa dito.
“if some fool” hahaha. is this how moderation works here? double standards truly.
@botomoto, you were doing fine with your arguments (i’m not saying that I agree with you) but why you have to poison your stand with personal attacks, that i don’t understand.
on the question of double standards – bluep is a writer here. you’re not. we know bluep. we don’t know you. i’m not sure if you’re getting me. in business, you earn goodwill. we are social climbing. getz?
getz… though not really interested in social climbing. no problem here. but, if i may ask, why is that most pro-noynoy’s immediately assume those who question noynoy are for villar? isn’t that a little…. you know what i mean.
not sure about that, someone was blaming Villar camp for that bloodied yellow ribbon.
BTW, social climbing here has a completely different meaning.
still it’s a bit of a stretch to assume that those who question noynoy are for some other candidate.
honestly, i just don’t understand why pro-noynoys seem to have an aversion for “legitimate calls for platforms” like what i’m doing essentially.
i don’t and i am for noynoy. people are different and as i have said on the other thread – it would be crazy for noynoy to run as president without a platform.
its a valid question. where’s your platform? nothing wrong with that. you cannot blame people with their decision making process and by not following certain decision making metrics by other people does not necessarily mean people are dumb and have no clue in making decisions.
that’s the hard part of campaining – how do you deliver the message. do you deliver the message through a yellow bloodied ribbon?
i guess there is no more juice here folks. now post some articles naman about other candidates so we can digress where we all stand for. i wonder if we all have the same energy to argue with the other candidates like we did noynoy.
for now, i love to wait noynoy’s answers to the issues pointed out.
as for you botomo, you can kiss my ass now. dahil i would not stoop down to your level, di kita ka-level boy.
yeah i know. masyado ka mababa, girl. o reynz take note who started it.
pakibasa nga yung sinabi ko. ako pa ang mababa ako na nga ang ayaw mag stoop. and now you question my sexuality now?
not really, i really thought you were a girl. in the same manner you assumed i’m a boy. if that offended you then i apologize.
but as to stooping well you know what you said so don’t claim innocence. but we can stop now. ok so peace.
it’s getting to be repititive Buraot.
This was all my mistake. I was so busy with that damn shit Pissbuk’s Cafe Leche and so I was not able to follow the conversation here and is just reading now.
But as La Kapitana and I have promised everyone of this before, I will not hesitate to delete unwanted comments attacking authors and not the issue.
While this is a hot topic, I’m pretty sure we could find some level ground for meaningful and reasonable discussion no matter how heated it could be.
Gusto kasi ng iba na magpadala tayo sa trapo hype, hindi pa nga nakafile ng coc, may mga pangako na, may platform na, may pr na, may ginagasta na, may (personal) investments na, may MAKINARYA na!!!
bluepanjeet,
no offense meant there. was just pointing out something. pero sige i’ll defer to your warning kahit wala naman ako sinabi masama was just reponding to buraot who was obviously referring to that.
sige tatayo na din ako so abot mo na ko. o joke lang pantapat sa joke mo.
buraot,
di ako sigurado kung ano ibig mo sabihin dito.
“para naman tayong iba bok eh. amoy ko naman kung saan ka galing. weheheheh.”
pero ok lang din bok. no problem whatever that is.
balik tayo sa topic.
yun nga eh nakaka-frustrate na personality-based na naman. ang sa akin lang bilang botante kaya naman nating baguhin yan. magingay lang tayo na tama na s personality-based platform-based na.
ewan ko lang kung napapansin mo kahit papano may ilan na rin sa mass media na namumulat na dapat nga platform-based.
kaya naman talaga at tulad nga sabi ko kanina si noynoy pwede ko pa rin ikunsidera iyan basta ba ilabas na niya ang platform niya.
Indeed, in a democracy, you deliver the sort of message that people will latch on to. And in the Philippines, even the most vacuous message proves to be effective.
Kaya nga the onus is on the electorate and political pundits/commentators to lift the bar. Trouble is many of us who are in a position to do so opt to do it da masa way instead of leading the way in terms of serving as an example of how one should take their politician to task.
indeed benign0. i agree 100 percent. nasa sa atin din mga botante ang reponsibilidad.
kaninang umaga naha high blood ako. ngayon, natatawa na ako. wahahahaha! kung bakit kasi di na lang magdiskusyunan ng mahusay, pwede naman. haynaku ikaw buraot ka talaga oo.
buraot,
your the original buraot.:)
tenkyu. pis be with you. pis puro na lang pis. pag isda pis. pag mukha pis. pisting yawa.
ekskyusme sa mga bisaya man. dyutay man lang gid.
sa mga anti-noynoy naisahan kayo. the main purpose of the video is to attract people and talk about noynoy and this is exactly what were doing. Positive or negative reaction, still they’re both catch of a perfectly conceptualized ads. You think you’re destroying the guy? he, he , he,. think again…….
just to drop a comment before i vow not to read this site anymore. Panjett and Reyz are such a disappointment to me. I find you both narrow-minded lalo na si Bluepanjeet. Wag ka nang mag pretend. Reading you here have given me an idea that you’re a rabid Noynoy fanatic…Good luck and Goodbye..may your idol wins!
this is pretty simple.
eh ano naman kung maka-noynoy ako at si bluepanjeet? what’s wrong with that?!
obviously you also have a choice – kung sino man yon di mo sinabi. now, sino ngayon saten ang mas makitid ang utak? based on your statement?
all of us have our own choices madaming mapagpipilian.
just because some people prefer Noynoy over the other does not mean they are narrow-minded.
sometimes, you should think first before you say something kasi di mo napapansin, diretso yun pabalik sa mukha mo.
puro kayo anonymous. ignoramus.
people who will vote for Noynoy ARE narrow-minded sheeplings unable to think for themselves & lacks any foresight for a better future. They would accept any information given to them without hesitation or inquiry. If it appears on TV, print & radio they’ll believe it.
Anyone with sufficient educational attainment could clearly see that Noy is just using his family name for his campaign. Its the only credential he has worth mentioning. It may put him to office but it doesnt make him a better leader.
Remember, voting for Noynoy won’t bring back Cory & Ninoy.
If any Aquino should run for office its got to be Kris, she has my vote.
funny how you say people voting for noynoy are narrow-minded. yet you say you will vote for kris.
wasn’t that shallow?
wahahahah!