My apology to Gordon and his fans; but more question!
By: Toto C. Causing
Dear everybody,
Note: The author edits his post on Gordon as he acknowledges he committed a mistake of stating as a fact that Gordon was among the winners in the 12-0 victory of Gloria Arroyo senatorial candidates.
And in so editing, he deems it necessary to state here: “I am sorry, Senator Richard Gordon and his fans, for this mistake. Rest assured, I am honest enough to admit errors, unlike those who continued to remain silent after benefiting from the ‘Hello Garci’ rigging of the votes of Maguindanao and the rest of Muslim provinces.”
Let me state further that among those who substantially appeared to have profited from the “Hello Garci” operations are the candidates then of Gloria under the so-called “K-4″ team. The list of winners of the 2004 senatorial elections are as follows:
1. Manuel Roxas II K-4 – Liberal Party 19,372,888 votes
2. Ramon Revilla Jr. K-4 – Lakas CMD 15,801,531
3. Aquilino Pimentel, Jr. KNP / PDP-LABAN 13,519,998
4. Maria Ana Consuelo Madrigal KNP – Independent 13,253,692
5. Richard Gordon K-4 – Lakas CMD 12,707,151
6. Pilar Juliana Cayetano K-4 – Lakas CMD 12,542,054
7. Miriam Defensor-Santiago K-4 – PRP 12,187,401
8. Alfredo Lim KNP – Independent 11,286,428
9. Juan Ponce Enrile KNP – PMP 11,191,162
10. Jinggoy Estrada KNP – PMP 11,094,120
11. Manuel Lapid K-4 – Lakas CMD 10,970,941
12. Rodolfo Biazon K-4 – Liberal Party 10,635,270
13. Robert Barbers K-4 – Lakas CMD 10,624,585
14. Ernesto Maceda KNP – NPC 9,944,328
15. John Henry Osmeña K-4 – Independent 9,914,179
Now, who among these who have remained silent on the Hello Garci tape that exploded the myth of Gloria’s team win to kingdom come?
Nevertheless, continue reading my original post by keeping in mind that I wrote there incorrectly that Gordon was among the senatorial candidates who benefited from the 12-0 cheating in Maguindanao. At least, this author is honest enough to keep his mistake for the record.
In offsetting for the mistake of fact, the author now states the following facts:
Gordon has remained silent on the Hello Garci tape scam until today. In fact he and Gibo Teodoro voted “no” when asked in the recent FOCAP forum. Mar Roxas who also benefited from Garci operations has already turned the other cheek by calling for the opening of a new investigation. See http://www.gmanews.tv/story/178817/hello-garci-scandal-baka-buhayin-sa-joint-session-ng-kongreso.
Five presidential candidates — Noynoy Aquino, Eddie Villanueva, Jamby Madrigal, Nick Perlas and JC delos Reyes — voted “yes” in the FOCAP question on whether they would allow a new investigation into the “Hello Garci” scandal. See Inquirer post at http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20100215-253372/Aquino-4-other-presidential-bets-back-new-Hello-Garci-probe.
SO ANOTHER QUESTION ARISES: WHY GORDON & GIBO DO NOT WANT TO REOPEN “HELLO GARCI” SCANDAL? Is it not that it would be shameful that Gordon’s vote would be shaved by 1 million more or less and that it would put Gibo in a situation of DISLOYALTY to Gloria Arroyo if he also allows so?
Another question: IS IT NOT THAT “HELLO GARCI” VOTES ARE FAR WORSE THAN THE 12-0 CHEATING IN MAGUINDANAO?
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Original entry:
HAS GORDON EXPLAINED WHY HE HAS BEEN SILENT ABOUT HIS VICTORY IN MAGUINDANO PROVINCE, where he was among the 12 senatorial candidates of Gloria Macapagal Arrovo who won 12-0 there?
If you know that the money given you by Mr. A was actually stolen from Mr. B, will you not return the money to Mr. B?
Applying to the situation of Gordon:
This former SBMA chairman knew that the votes of Maguindanao Province were rigged in favor of Arroyo senatorial candidates that CHAVIT SINGSON became No. 1 when he lost in all Ilocano provinces except for Ilocos Sur where he landed No. 8. And at that time, Gordon was among the 12 candidates of Arrovo and he must have benefited from the rigging.
Now, when it has been established that the Maguindanao votes were rigged as shown by the evidence of Lintang Bedol running away and hiding until now, will Gordon give up the position of senator or the votes he supposedly got from Maguindanao?
How will you now explain why the man claiming to have principle became a mute Amboy as to the issue of Hello Garci?
Why Gordon did not start anew the investigation on “Hello Garci” when he has been the chairman of the Blue Ribbon Committee?
AANHIN ANG MAY NAGAWA, PANAY NAMAN MASASAMA?
Here are more issues for Gordon.
Why Gordon did not indict Gloria in his NBN-ZTE report?
Why Gordon did not explain the more than 800 million pesos he spent during his days in SBMA?
What is there a dispute between Gordon and Magsaysay over Subic? Why are they quarelling?
Why smuggling is rampant in SBMA?
Why Olongapo City has not surpassed Davao City, Quezon City and Makati City?
Why prostitution proliferated in Olongapo during the time of Americans at SBMA when the city was ruled by Gordon?
Again: AANHIN ANG MAY NAGAWA, PANAY NAMAN MASASAMA?
Patriotically yours,
Toto Causing
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Hi there,
Can you kindly double check your facts regarding who was the senatorial candidates during the 2004 and 2007 because you are probably mistaken.
As per Wikipedia here’s the 2004 K-4 Senatorial Slate where Gordon belongs:
Robert Barbers, Pong Biazon, Pia Cayetano, Hussin, Jaworski, Lito Lapid, Orly Mercado, John Osmena, Mar Roxas, Bong Revilla, Defensor Santiago.
The 2007 general elections you are referring probably (on the Maguindanao episode) has the following Team Unity Senatorial Slate:
Ed Angara, Aquino-Oreta, Joker Arroyo, Mike Defensor, Kiram, Vic Magsaysay, Cesar Montano, Pichay, Ralph Recto, Chavit Singson, Tito Sotto and Migz Zubiri.
But I believe it is still a good question to be asked, but not to Senator Gordon.
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Why Gordon did not indict Gloria in his NBN-ZTE report?
- Obviously because of LACK OF EVIDENCE! This is the same thing that happened when the Aquino Admin.
Why Gordon did not explain the more than 800 million pesos he spent during his days in SBMA?
- Where’s your evidence on this? Ask COA!
What is there a dispute between Gordon and Magsaysay over Subic? Why are they quarelling?
- Naman obvious ba!
Why smuggling is rampant in SBMA?
- The smuggling became rampant AFTER Gordon was taken away as the SBMA chairman and replaced by the ERAP appointed official!
Why Olongapo City has not surpassed Davao City, Quezon City and Makati City?
- NO COMPARISON! Davao City, Quezon City were already established cities before Olangapo even became a city. And those cities did not suffer a major disaster like Mt. Pinatubo!!!!
Why prostitution proliferated in Olongapo during the time of Americans at SBMA when the city was ruled by Gordon?
-Get your fact straight man! The Americans ALREADY LEFT Olongapo whne SBMA was established!!!
I’m interested to know about this if you could share something.
For decades the Gordons had the sole political monopoly in Olongapo and the first district of Zambales. nobody can win against them. he was even reported to say, “kahit aso ko ang patakbuhin ko, di pa rin mananalo ang mga taga-oposisyon”. the local opposition lacks the machinery to beat any of them.
The Magsaysay hails from the municipality of Castillejos, which is part of the 1st district. They originally don’t meddle in Olongapo politics. But the clamor for a “big name” to challenge the Gordons, the Magsaysays fielded Mitos over Kate Gordon (Dick’s wife) and won.
Now Vic Magsaysay, the former undefeated 3-time Zambales governor is running against James Gordon (Dick’s brother) as mayor of Olongapo.
Before this, they were running a proxy war. Magsaysay fielding candidates for Congress in the 1st district and Olongapo mayorship. Only now that two of the major players would be facing head on.
These are two of the biggest political dynasties in Zambales and Olongapo. And two of the most trapos.
^^ ang pagkaka-alam ko diyan, nag-over the bakod ang Gordon sa distrito ng Magsaysay, napikon ang kabilang panig, kaya gumanti, kahit plain housewife lang dati si Mitos, pinanlaban nila kay Kate Gordon.
there’s also an issue about technical smuggling in SBMA, the other accused the 1st party about it, but in actuality, it’s the other way around. you can easily verify it by asking, start at the Seaport department, BOC… magtanong kayo sa mga naglalakad ng papel, maraming kwento kayong maririnig.
re: WHY OLONGAPO hasn’t surpassed Davao, Quezon City.
napakaliit lang po ng Olongapo. pwede mo nga itong malibot ng 2 oras kung may sasakyan ka. kaya nga, entertainment ang main business ng Olongapo noong panahon ng Base Naval. kasi wala pong space para sa factory or mga manufacturing firm. yung kahabaan po ng Magsaysay Avenue, paikot hanggang palengke, yon lang po ang business area, meron din sa kahabaan ng Gordon Avenue na mga establishment, pero aside from that, residential area na po ang pangkalahatang nasasakupan ng Olongapo. Napapalibutan ho ito ng dagat at bundok. kaya huwag niyo pong ikumpara sa Quezon City at Davao.
for comparison, (source: wikipedia)
OLONGAPO:
17 Baranggays,
POPULATION: 227,270
Land Area: 71.4 sq.mi
Quezon City:
142 baranggays,
POPULATION: 2,679,450
LAND AREA: 64.2 sq.mi
Davao City:
184 baranggays
POPULATION (as of 2007): 1,363,337
land area: 943.6 sq.mi
nakakalungkot that we have to choose for the lesser evil. it’s like saying that no one is good. and the bad thing is that evil, no matter how less, tends to grow out of proportion when paired with authority.
di ba nakakalungkot? i feel you ronnie. it seemed like, these people each have their own “what they did last summer” stuff. in fact, yong ibang malilinis were swallowed by the system, naging mas malala pa from how clean when they started.
Reyna,
Please check your facts, GORDON is SILENT because he wasn’t part of the 2007 Senatorial Elections, he ran in 2004 with Mar Roxas.
Jet P.
Jet,
I’m not the author. Please see the very 1st line. I emailed Toto Causing already. No worries, I’m pretty sure he will respond.
FACT: Gordon was not part of 2007 Admin lineup. (This is pure mudslinging by LP group, under Roxas paid online team.)
Gordon ran w/ Roxas in 2004 under the administration-sponsored K4.
FYI.
Rey,
I will remove the entry temporarily until Toto respond. Apologies if he has not cleared the question yet. Thank you for the comment.
Hello everybody,
I am so sorry for the mixup. I relied on my memory and it turned out to be a mistake.
Then I responded late because I drove to Nueva Ecija to attend to personal matters. As soon as I came back, I immediately posted my apology for the mistake and found more devastating information about 2004 elections where Gordon landed No. 5.
Again, my apology guys and to Gordon.
Patriotically yours,
Toto Causing
Toto,
Since you are closer to MAR ROXAS and he topped the 2004 Senatorial Elections (as Gloria’s K-4) which according to you profitted from the “Hello Garci” scandal, then you might as well ask him first.
Will await his response muna, salamat for raising this point which questions the INTEGRITY OF LIBERAL PARTY’s Vice Presidential candidate !!!
Jet P.
Hi Toto and Reynz! The error notwithstanding, it’s a great piece, Toto. At least u were honest and rigorous enough to admit your error. I have nothing personal against Gordon but will just say that I agree with most of your contentions. I’ll briefly add a few more:
1.) I did not agree with his stance on the US bases and can only infer that he is pro-VFA and for the RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty. However, I think it’s high time we exerted our independence from the US. I also had to carefully go over the VFA while I was writing a paper on the rape of “Nicole” and Philippine law. In a nutshell, the power differential between the US and Pinas in terms of Filipino rights and US privileges, was pretty disturbing. I’m for peacefully co-existing with the US but on terms that accord us with far more dignity as a people. If anything, tho, Gordon wants greater cooperation on our part with the US military (which means that funds that could be used for food or development would go into an already burgeoning military arsenal). He even continued to push for the VFA during the height of the Nicole rape trial when Smith was accorded special privileges. With a Gordon presidency, I fear we’ll always be kowtowing to the US and militarization will be his hallmark.
2.) During the Ondoy relief effort, many Fil-Ams who had tried to send relief goods to the Red Cross complained that Gordon would not allow goods to be distributed unless he himself was there to help distribute or for a photo op. Since I was working with a few Fil-Am and international NGOs in NY, this is what I was repeatedly told, and most of them eventually chose to send their good elsewhere. I know this because, between DSWD and PRC, many Fil-Ams preferred to go through Oxfam and the UN instead.
3.) As u point out, Gordon has remained disturbingly silent on Garci, ZTE, Maguindanao, etc, etc. Yes, Ma’am! — all the way, di ba? So doesn’t that suggest that he is pro-GMA or at least would never go against her? Why would we want a president like that? What does he really believe in apart from whatever happens to be politically expedient at a given moment?
4.) But there’s also something else: prostitution proliferated in Olongapo during his term and there is ample documentation of widespread abuses towards prostituted women. Many complained that there was no justice for the perpetrators and some activists and scholars argue that prostitution, like sending OFWs abroad, r poor developmental models. I agree: u want to give people dignified labor that does not strip them of their human rights. Also, were there efforts to provide these women meaningful labor once they got too old to become prostitutes?
5.) As a Senator, he wanted to put the Cultural Center of the Philippines (CCP), the National Commission on Culture and the Arts (NCCA) and the National Historical Institute (NHI) under the Department of Tourism! A good friend was asked to be a consultant for the bill and when, she heard the parameters, she balked. She explained that the Philippines was not only about beguiling beaches and beautiful women: we also had a cultural identity that was rich, diverse and complex. So she proposed that they all be separate institutions, so they could each attend to their specific mandates, as necessary. I mean, what kind of thinker thinks his country is just a giant tourist destination? What about what the locals want? Anyway, u know what Gordon did? He had a screaming fit in the Senate and called her a “slut” and told her to “shut up and get out”! Her initial reaction was that he must be slightly unstable…
6.) My brother was a reporter many years ago and tried to interview Gordon about human rights in Olongapo. Gordon kept avoiding the question, so he repeated the question again. Gordon finally paid attention. Only this time he blew his top and told my brother (shouting all the way) to get out of the room and never to ask that question again. So my bro also thought that Gordon was unnecessarily volatile and couldn’t be counted on to keep his cool. He seems to have that reputation in the Senate now as well. So they never got to discuss how the prostitutes were treated, which apparently was quite worrisome at the time…
7.) As for Bayani, there’s a reason people call him Baha-yani F. Much of the Ondoy flooding happened on his watch and he could have addressed preventive, pre-flooding measures far more effectively. And what was with those blasted pink urinals??
So, yes, Senatorial, certainly. But he certainly needs to learn a thing or two about women’s rights, just like some of his supporters. If he understands Realpolitik, he’ll build coalitions that won’t compromise his “principles”, whatever those principles might be. Because he doesn’t stand much of a chance otherwise, and his capacity to do any good for this country will be considerably lessened if he doesn’t win.
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In other matters: As some of u may know, antipinoy.com, Unmoderated Filipino Voices, Get Real Philippines and Utak ng Tilapia — which is pretty much run by the same incestuous bunch of misanthropes — have been attacking Noynoy supporters on their respective sites. Oddly, they spend far less time discussing their own candidates or attacking ours, and seem to be far more interested in attacking Noynoy’s supporters personally. In at least 10 of their blogs, I am addressed, quoted and referred to as an “heiress, moron, arrogant, pretentious bitch, an old maid with no husband (!) who seems to prefer foreigners, and who has a mother who was “successful” politician (reads like a crime) and an uncle who wields a vast empire that stretches across the colonies of the Philippine islands…” I mean, much of it is so overblown and exaggerated, and, regrettably, most isn’t even good writing. And virtually all the assumptions r simply wrong. So why expend energy to produce something so mediocre and putrid? Why not create instead and help the poor with your skills?
Ilda in particular seems to be slightly obsessed with my opinion (I’m rather flattered
) — but I wonder why they care so much about what I think, LOL! 
Poor Ilda has not written a single blog in the past few months that doesn’t address or refer to me in some way. I barely remember our encounter but apparently it struck her pretty deeply… 
I did think she was slightly literate, tho. But apparently she doesn’t have the rudimentary research skills required to check her facts so she knows exactly where I stand on Gordon, because I certainly posted those more substantive views on FV at one point. Besides, sa dami-dami ng mga nag-comment kay Gordon, why is MY opinion always the most important to her? Actually, SHE’S the one who keeps giving me importance, not me.
And the others apparently don’t always have the intellectual training to question the point of view of a friend. They side with her because they’re barkada, period. They never bother to look at both sides of the story. Can they really be so illiterate that they all think I reject Gordon because I may have encountered him socially and feel I’m “in the know”? Pretty conceptually primitive, don’t u think? How would that idea even hold water for anybody at all, least of all someone like me who tries to be empirical all the time? So tribal is it indeed that the moment one of them says the sky is green and Lila hates Gordon because she’s an “arrogant, pretentious bitch” (do u know anyone literate who even talks like that, guys? Some of the supporters of Gordon and Perlas r their own worst enemies because they inevitably succeed in turning everybody off their candidates, even potential supporters) who claims to know everyone, the rest of those antipinoy/utak tilapia/UFV/get real philippines folks BELIEVE THE UNVERIFIED “FACT” AND MAKE A JUDGMENT. And such judgments — all based on ignorance half the time! So much for independent thought, hahahaha! Basta sinabi ni Ilda, yun na iyon..
They even believe this poor creature Carlito who claims he met at some point but doesn’t have the ba…s to identify himself or specify in what context we met. KSP kaya? If we’ve really met, what’s the problem? Why so resentful after all these years? And what kind of thinkers go around calling women (even Cory, who’s dead, may she rest in peace) “bitches”? U mean this language is okay with Ilda?
FYI, I can discuss Gordon point by point but the blog Ilda was whining about was about Noynoy, so I didn’t want to get off-point, that’s all.
And now they’re all addled and resentful that I might sue them. Grow up, people. You’re not a significant enough demographic. Why would I bother? Besides, I can’t control what some of my friends write when they’re mad. But, really, it’s not worth the effort because most r small-minded, parochial thinkers who think my-way-or-the-highway is how it should be, and have absolutely no tolerance for difference. Then they get all excited and resentful when they encounter someone with a “name” (so what?). And they start being prom-di by name-dropping every time they hyperlink me to their blogs. As u have seen, I’m not the one name-dropping here…
But the bottom line is that Gordon appears to have little interest in women’s rights, as do his supporters here. Gordon’s supporters prefer to attack the Noynoy supporters in terms of their family or love life rather than focusing on the ISSUES. For instance, I could critique Bong Vicente’s forays in Mindanao (and how!) but wouldn’t that be non-sequitur here, where we happen to be discussing Gordon at the moment. But they do that personalan attack all the time. But it just gets so intellectually vapid when analysis has no discipline, di ba? Dilettantes can be adorable, but not when they’re bitter, misanthropic and utterly lacking in rigor.
Thanks, u two!
he is definitely pro-American and an advocate of a police state. his record clearly indicates that.
@Lila: wow! ang haba ng sinabi mo about yourself! soooo ‘off-point’!!
wow. he said “slut”
so gordon is not really pro-pinay? meron bang sinuportahan si gordon na pro-pinay?
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Additional info:
The 12-0 result in Maguindanao in favor of the GMA candidates was in 2007.
Gordon run under GMA K-4 party in 2004. The result in Maguindanao for the Senatorial Elections was 9-3 in favor of the K-4 candidates. Hussin from K-4 was first followed by Dilangalen from the opposition KNP. Other opposition candidates in the top 12 are Jinggoy Estrada (8th) and Enrile (11th). Gordon ranked 9th.
There was no reported cheating in the Senatorial result in Maguindanao in 2004.
Why Gordon did not indict Gloria in his NBN-ZTE report?
- Obviously because of LACK OF EVIDENCE! This is the same thing that happened when the Aquino Admin.
- dagdag ko lang, Sen Gordon and the blue ribbon commitee finish all the investigations and gathering of evidences and forwarded it to the ombudsman to file case against Mrs Arroyo, as we all know, the ombudsman is a former classmate of First Gentleman Mike Arroyo, so ano pang closure maasahan natin sa kasong ito, e d wala! Pero mapapansin nyo napakabilis ng deliberation at investigation ng kasong ito headed by none other than Sen Gordon, e c NOynoy? natutulog sa pansitan kasi walang silbi, lagi nakaasa sa mga advisers nyang abogado!
Why Gordon did not explain the more than 800 million pesos he spent during his days in SBMA?
- hehe halata namang di ka nagreresearch e, allegation to na meron ngang pondo for the volunteers, pero di nyo check sources nyo san naman manggaling ang pondong yan kasi simula ng lumago ang Subic, di na cla umasa sa Gobyerno
- Where’s your evidence on this? Ask COA!
What is there a dispute between Gordon and Magsaysay over Subic? Why are they quarelling?
- isa lang ibig sabhin nun andun ang mga magsaysay para manggulo, saka tao naman ang nagluluklok sa mga yan, hinde naman cla tinututukan ng baril para iboto ang mga Gordon, ibig sbhin lang nun mas magaling na mga leader ang mga Gordon!
- Naman obvious ba!
Why smuggling is rampant in SBMA?
- check your facts! pra kang kandidato mo e di nagiisip bago magsalita!
- The smuggling became rampant AFTER Gordon was taken away as the SBMA chairman and replaced by the ERAP appointed official!
Why Olongapo City has not surpassed Davao City, Quezon City and Makati City?
- di mo talaga macocompare ang Olongapo sa mga yan kasi mas malinis pa ang Olongapo kesa sa mga siyudad na binanggit mo!
- NO COMPARISON! Davao City, Quezon City were already established cities before Olangapo even became a city. And those cities did not suffer a major disaster like Mt. Pinatubo!
Why prostitution proliferated in Olongapo during the time of Americans at SBMA when the city was ruled by Gordon?
- isa pa to bago ka magsulat ha, nakakaawa ka naman hinde m nmn tsinitsek ang mga facts mo,naubos na ang buhok mo sa kakaisip ng madumi ke Sen Gordon, yang c noynoy, hacienda luisita at SCTEX walang bahid ng kurapsyon ULOL nyo! umpisa p lng yan, pag nanalo yan, hinde nga yan magnanakaw, ang mga nasa paligid naman nya ang gagawa nun sapagkat MAHINA SYANG LIDER! IBIG SBHIN AMPAW!
-Get your fact straight man! The Americans ALREADY LEFT Olongapo whne SBMA was established!!!
Well Olongapo city mayor si Dick Gordon nung eighties di ba? 1980-1986 tas nanalo ulit nung 1987 That time rampant yung prostitution sa Olongapo and Olongapo was a red light district then
Well my relative was working for K4 that time and sinabi nya saamin na hindi lang si Gloria ang nakipagusap kay Garci pati yung ibang kandidato rin sa senate. Kaya nga sila tahimik eh